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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this is a form of abuse?

31 replies

Notokat · 25/09/2023 19:12

My ex partner has never met our daughter (I left him in pregnancy after I couldn’t cope anymore with the silent treatment etc). Baby wasn’t planned but we were planning to ttc the year after she was born so I didn’t think it was problematic, though obviously a shock to us both. DD was two last week. He has been in regular contact since she was born. Every few weeks there’s a text making small talk, ‘hope Dd is enjoying herself,’ then more chat about weather etc. No commitment to see her, nothing of actual substance in the messages. He does pay maintenance.

The abuse bit… if I dare to say anything he doesn’t like such as ‘why haven’t you seen dd, what a low thing to do as a parent’ or ‘will you increase maintenance to help with nursery cost,’ or ‘why are you texting making small talk if you haven’t seen dd,’ he ignores the question and says he ‘thought he could trust me’ and if I start making accusations about him he will report me… ?!

I’ve never once said I would make accusations about him, I’ve only ever called him out on being a shit dad. I’ve engaged with his messages as I hoped he would eventually see her, be decent towards her etc. I am getting so sick of the back and forth but honestly my nerves are shot when I feel I can’t say anything with any degree of honestly in case he makes threats. Is this abuse? Is he crazy?! He is very educated and intelligent, I almost can’t fathom how he can react in this strange way. This has been going on now for two years, I’m sick of it. I want him to either see Dd or cut contact with me for good. I’ve no idea why he would be in touch but never see her? I don’t want to be the person who cuts contact as I feel I would be cutting him off for dd and that doesn’t sit well with me. But I am exhausted of tiptoeing round him.

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BananaSlug · 25/09/2023 19:58

Notokat · 25/09/2023 19:35

@BananaSlug did you get to the bottom as to why? I cannot understand it. I don’t enjoy messaging him and I assume he doesn’t enjoy messaging me either… we’ve nothing to say to each other!

He just wanted to ease his guilt and so if anyone asked him how the kids were instead of saying I don’t know he could say yeah they are fine. When my kids got old enough to have phones he asked to contact them directly but still rarely does.

Punkkitty · 25/09/2023 19:59

@Notokat Good woman yourself! Sometimes you just need to write it out and get some perspective to get your head on straight. You’re clearly a dedicated and great mum.
You got this girl!

Kangaroobrain · 25/09/2023 20:04

Notokat · 25/09/2023 19:45

@GalaApples thanks, that’s a good idea, I guess dd can’t blame me for anything if I can show I have given him ample time, kept the channels open by email only, but eventually cut off text. I think that’s reasonable? I just don’t want to get anything wrong for her. I wish he would just be honest with me but he is never ever clear in any messages.

I also agree with @GalaApples . I think you should message him politely that you think any further discussion between you is pointless if he's not wanting to arrange to meet DD. If he changes his mind, he can always get in contact again to arrange that.

You can then show that you did your best, you kept the door open for him to have a relationship with DD, but the ball is now in his court.

Ponoka7 · 25/09/2023 20:06

I put YABU because you shouldn't be in contact with him. He's rejected your DD, were is your loyalty to her? In the future he can use you chatting to him as it not being a problem, or you being the one not allowing contact. It's also an ego thing for him. He threatens your and your Dad's welfare, yet you chat to him. You need to end the contact, or there'll be no way to explain to your DD how you've been friendly with a man who doesn't think that she's good enough to know.

BoohooWoohoo · 25/09/2023 20:13

If you block him then he can still apply to court for contact if that is what he wants. If you engage with the legal process at that point then you can honestly tell your dd that you did your best to enable a relationship.

Do you think he wants to know how she is to mess with you or do you think someone like his mother is interested in updates and he wants to be able to say something relevant like "she started ballet lessons "

SavBlancTonight · 25/09/2023 20:35

Notokat · 25/09/2023 19:29

@StripeyDeckchair i feel if I don’t engage that down the line he may turn it on me that I stopped his contact. I worry about this a lot. As much as I despise him (and I truly, truly do), I know he is her dad and it’s not for me to block him from opportunity to see her?

If I said I only want him to be in touch by email he would take offence to this and again would Iikely use it against me in future. I’ve just had enough. No matter what I do I can’t do right.

But he doesn't have contact, and has never asked for contact.

I would tell him that as he does not want to be actively involved in dd's life you will send him a short update, and photos, quarterly/6 monthly, via email. If he would like to engage with dd and actually meet her, you are open to that but he would need to request it and make an actual proposal. Otherwise you will not be engaging

Then stop responding unless it's specifically related to contact, finances etc.

I mean, what is he going to report you for?!?!?!?

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