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[Desperatetime]

I've noticed that everybody seems to he in a rush and some have a attitude I'm sick of people up my rear end when I'm doing the speed limit and hovering to overtake.
Last night around 11pm I had somebody up my rear flashing and blowing thier horn at me when I was doing the speed limit maybe just under aibu to think this behaviour is getting worse.

So... what is the posted speed limit?

The clue was in the original sentence.
I think this has just gone over your head a bit.

Why do lorries flash and blast their horn and then overtake.
If I reacted to the horn and lights and DID speed up, then they wouldn't get back in or have to pull back behind me causing them more anger.

Oh, the clue. Because it would just be too easy to say something straightforward. Well done for deciding to stop risking the safety and lives of other road users. Or are you just thinking about it in terms of the fuel you've saved?

Yes.

The highway code says the one reason for flashing your lights is to alert another driver to the fact you're there - that's exactly what you want to do, as realising you're there will (hopefully) also make them remember that it's an overtaking lane.

As the un suggests, I'm a new driver.
I travel a little under the speed limit 27/8 in a hilly 30 for example while I'm adjusting to a new car and no, sitting on my arse is not going to make me go any faster - I can't afford 3 of the 6 points I've got for the first two years because you don't like the speed limit. And it's not like I'm doing 28 in a 40 or a 60.

I've improved in the 2 weeks I've had the car and I must say that 80% of drivers don't hassle and give me space and time, but for some the P plates make them lose their heads, I've been cut up more than once on a roundabout, pulled out on because they don't want to be 'stuck' behind me and tailgated going 60 in a 60 and overtaken while shaking their head or making gestures, beeping the horn.
It's like the speed limits are optional or a suggestion to some people from my short stint on the road!

It's absolutely ridiculous. The other week I was on some country lanes, with the speed limit being mostly 50 but going down to 40 in some areas and I had a motorbike tailgating me and flashing lights for the entire journey. I was doing the maximum speed and there were opportunities for him to overtake. Tailgating in a car is bad enough but it could've been lethal for him if I'd had to do an emergency stop. Also a huge roundabout by me with yellow boxes, most people ignore them and sit in the yellow box and block the flow of traffic. I stay out of the box and they all blow the horn at me. Ffs!

I (and doubtless everyone) have had some lunatic driving much faster than the speed limit and trying to bully me out of the way.

But it's very rare. If you are getting this a lot then the common denominator must be you. What is 'hovering to overtake' @Desperatetime? If you mean you are blocking the road by driving at the same speed as the person on your left then just move back in until you can pass safely.

Being technically in the right won't make the inevitable accident any nicer for you. Just drive in a way that is considerate of other and move in.

The speed limit is the speed limit though, not a target. You don't have to drive at it if the conditions are not suitable. 'Conditions' can mean lots of things.

I'm originally from a rural area. Most of the roads are national speed limit. They're also windy, narrow lanes, not lit at all and full of hazards like ice, wildlife darting out etc. My brother had 2 friends die as 18 yos on those roads. Legally you can do the NSL but you absolutely shouldn't, especially at night, even on the 2 lane parts, despite what some nocturnal boy racer (probably pissed) thinks you should do. And you absolutely shouldn't get up behind someone if they're not going as fast as you would like. Just wait. It happens a lot to me with cyclists- I'm a cyclist as well- and you come under a lot of pressure to close pass cyclists. I won't do it. So tough, you'll just have to wait until it's safe to overtake- and you probably can't see what's coming the other way anyway.

One of the places I lived had different speed limits when it was raining which I quite liked.

The hovering to overtake bit is the driver behind flashing headlights and so on. Not the OP.

It means they're over the centre line looking for an opportunity to overtake. Suggests they're too close to the OP as well as you can see ahead if you're the appropriate distance behind.

This guy was flashing and blowing his horn at me on a quiet 30 zone road at 11pm absolutely ridiculous behaviour it's so unpleasant driving now.

I often wonder if my car goes invisible sporadically. Drivers seem to think it’s ok to pull out in front of me and round here it’s the bigger the car the more entitled the driver is.
Driving standards are low.

There does seem to have been a deterioration in driving standards in the last couple of years.
My two biggest grips are people cutting corners at junctions and then being surprised by someone being in the road already.

And driving over mini roundabouts, in cars that are perfectly capable of driving round them.

One of the places I lived had different speed limits when it was raining which I quite liked.

Some drivers seem to be completely unaware (or don't care?!) that you should drive for the conditions you're in. I was on the M3/M27 in torrential rain last week. Visibility was very poor, there was a lot of surface water yet some cars were still driving aggressively doing well over the speed limit. I'm a very experienced driver and have had good habits drummed into me from a young age by my ex-rally driver father but even I find it quite nerve-wracking. I usually love driving but I was very relieved when that drive was over as the concentration required for those conditions was intense.

Don't even get me started on white cars who don't have any lights on in low light / poor visibility conditions so are practically invisible. Accidents just waiting to happen.

If this is the case and the other cars are running up OP's backside on a single lane road then obviously YANBU and there is nothing OP can do about it.

However OP does seem to be talking about herself there.

when I'm doing the speed limit and hovering to overtake.

No, the OP isnt talking about themselves as is very clear in the fuller quote:

"I'm sick of people up my rear end when I'm doing the speed limit and hovering to overtake."

Drivers behind are "up my rear end" and they're the ones "hovering to overtake".

That's not what that sentence means. That would be:

I'm sick of people up my rear end and hovering to overtake when I'm doing the speed limit.

I appreciate it might be what OP means but I don't think it's remotely clear.

It’s getting worse because the speed limits are getting rediculous.

It is what the OP means and they're also a new driver (see name change fail above). OP has said they do the speed limit or just under - that's not the actions of someone hovering to overtake.

Very clear to me that's what they're talking about, especially since they're a new driver.

I mean not staying on the correct side of the road at all - literally veering over the middle line of an ordinary two-way road, so that 1/4 of their car is driving directly at oncoming traffic.
There is a particular bend in a road in my town where this is extremely common now, as if people are too lazy to move the steering wheel the required amount to stay on their side of the road.

@Thementalloadisreal "I mean not staying on the correct side of the road at all - literally veering over the middle line of an ordinary two-way road, so that 1/4 of their car is driving directly at oncoming traffic.
There is a particular bend in a road in my town where this is extremely common now, as if people are too lazy to move the steering wheel the required amount to stay on their side of the road."

If they can clearly see there is nothing oncoming then driving in a straight line over the bend rather than following the bend round is actually good driving. Advanced drivers are taught to do this.

It is not advanced drivers doing this trust me. Its lazy idiots.
It’s an extremely busy main road with constant traffic both sides, they can see that there is a steady stream of drivers coming towards them and cause them to have to go dangerously close to the kerb.

(edited to add, it should be blatantly obvious that they aren’t advanced drivers who can clearly see that nothing is oncoming because I am literally oncoming that’s how I see them doing it!)

Awful isn’t it.

I’m currently on holiday in England and not looking forward to going back.

Where I live (Northern city) I reckon people are pretty polite drivers on the whole. However the one thing I despise is tailgaters.

I sometimes have to drive across winding hills - I know the road well, but at night I end up reducing my speed quite a bit round the bends, particularly as my old car doesn't have super bright headlights. On one such trip in the dark, I was tailgated for miles by a large vehicle, which terrified me with the kids in the back, and there was nowhere suitable to pull in and let them pass. When I eventually turned off, I looked back and was horrified to see it was an ambulance (no lights or siren of course) - I would have expected an ambulance driver to understand the importance of stopping distance!

Just move over. It's safer for everyone.

If you just stay in the fast lane doing the speed limit and an idiot comes up behind you wanting to get past and you stay where you are, you cause them to do dangerous things and you contribute to the problem.

Just move over then neither one of you will be stressed.