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When is the BBC going to square up to Huw Edwards?

106 replies

teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 11:42

I gather HW is still in hiding in some convenient private facility whilst he waits for the BBC and the public to forgive and forget. I hope this is not going to happen and I would like to know how much longer the taxpayer-funded state broadcaster is going to keep the guy on full salary, yet suspended from duty. For me this is a matter of public concern.

I have no interest in whether HW has committed criminal acts - I rather suspect he is far too buttoned-up to do anything other than look - but he is suspended pending an investigation into behaviour incompatible with his position and that has brought his employer into disrepute. The BBC seem to be locked in limbo on this one but it needs an end.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/09/2023 12:17

Ponoka7 · 19/09/2023 11:58

Well he's committed a criminal offence by trying to pay a underage teen for sexually explicit photos, so yes, he needs further punishment.
He developed MH issues after being caught. He might not have the appearance of Russell Brand, so everyone is ok with H m being a sex offender, but some of us don't judge on appearance. You wouldn't get this consideration in any other job. You'd have to be giving them a point of return or hand in your resignation. I agree OP that he's giving it enough time for his victims to be over a acceptable age and his wife public forgiveness.

Do you know for a fact that is what happened given the police found no evidence of criminal behaviour and the alleged victim denied it.

What evidence are you relying on?

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/09/2023 12:18

Ponoka7 · 19/09/2023 11:58

Well he's committed a criminal offence by trying to pay a underage teen for sexually explicit photos, so yes, he needs further punishment.
He developed MH issues after being caught. He might not have the appearance of Russell Brand, so everyone is ok with H m being a sex offender, but some of us don't judge on appearance. You wouldn't get this consideration in any other job. You'd have to be giving them a point of return or hand in your resignation. I agree OP that he's giving it enough time for his victims to be over a acceptable age and his wife public forgiveness.

They weren't under age. The police said he had done nothing illegal. The alleged victim denied any crime had taken place.

Sleazy- - but not illegal.

MadamWhiteleigh · 19/09/2023 12:23

She hasn’t pulled it from her backside, she’s got it from The Sun and Twitter.

Which is the same thing.

HamSandwichKiller · 19/09/2023 12:29

Jeez it feels like we lurch from one moral outrage to another at the moment. I'll get excited when someone actually gets charged with a crime, rather than having a trial by media.

PietariKontio · 19/09/2023 12:32

HJ40 · 19/09/2023 12:08

I don't share the 'blood lust' but I'm a believer in proper process rather than trial by media HOWEVER I also don't think MH can excuse bad behaviour. Some posters seem to be heading that way...

Many people who are mentally unwell do behave in ways when unwell that they would never do when well. You can deny it's a reason all day long, but people who are experts in mental health, people who have mental health conditions, and indeed the law, all know differently.

LakeTiticaca · 19/09/2023 12:33

He may not have committed an offence but his behaviour was sleazy and unpleasant. Committed Christian my arse (no pun intended 😉) he gave no consideration to his poor wife and children. How humiliated must they feel?
They must be sickened.
How convenient that his mental breakdown occurred just after he was caught out.
I doubt he will read the BBC news again, surely nobody is that brass necked (apart from Russell Brand possibly)

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 12:38

Ponoka7 · 19/09/2023 12:00

Offering payment to someone under 18 for pictures of a pornografic nature is illegal. Then there was threatening texts to a 17 year old. This is a 62 year old.

I don't think that happened though. The "pornografic" photos did not involve someone under 18.

BIossomtoes · 19/09/2023 12:39

How convenient that his mental breakdown occurred just after he was caught out.

Highly inconvenient I’d say. That witch hunt was enough to tip anyone over the edge, let alone someone whose mental health was precarious.

MuckyPlucky · 19/09/2023 12:42

You do realise that ‘Edwards’ doesn’t begin with ‘W’, don’t you OP???

Oh and whilst we’re at it: I hope you never end up having a total nervous breakdown and suicidal, with your reputation and family life in tatters, humiliated on a national level, and feeling there’s nothing left to live for.

And if you do, let’s hope your employer is a little more compassionate than you are. 🤦🏼‍♀️

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 12:44

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/09/2023 12:17

Do you know for a fact that is what happened given the police found no evidence of criminal behaviour and the alleged victim denied it.

What evidence are you relying on?

Probably the initial reports in The Scum, which I think then had to backtrack?

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 12:46

He might not have the appearance of Russell Brand, so everyone is ok with H m being a sex offender, but some of us don't judge on appearance

Equating what HE did with what RB is accused of is sick, quite frankly.

gogomoto · 19/09/2023 12:48

If he's not committed a crime under U.K. law then they need to treat him like any other employee with a mental health condition in treatment, no more no less as per his contract

Hbh17 · 19/09/2023 12:48

The only person who possibly needs to forgive him is his wife. It is nothing to do with the rest of us.

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 12:50

I think some posters need to look up the meaning of the word "libel".

longwayoff · 19/09/2023 12:57

OP, that's very nasty. Haven't you got something more unpleasant to focus on? There's plenty of things to be more concerned about which might give you even more pleasure.

Sparklesocks · 19/09/2023 13:25

Ponoka7 · 19/09/2023 12:14

Well he put on a bloody good act if he was mentally ill enough to use it as an excuse to coerse a minor into sexual acts. This happened recently, not twenty years ago, so why is he blameless, but Brand, who speaks out about his MH struggles isn't? There's three allegations outstanding against HE, all teenagers. He's forty five years older and married.

Sorry where did I mention RB in my post? Not sure why you think whataboutery is making your point…

and it’s not up to me to judge how ill or not ill HW is, but you’re naive if you think everyone with MH issues is unable to mask it…

All I’m saying is none of us have enough information on this delicate situation to judge. I’m not saying he’s blameless, I was responding to the OP making assumptions.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/09/2023 13:30

It's HE (Huw Edwards) not HW.

teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 13:32

Extraordinary the attitudes to this man. May I remind posters that five days before he was suspended by the BBC, he was in Scotland presiding over coverage of our new King's accession. Two days after that he attended an Awards ceremony with all the management bigwigs. On the Thursday he is confronted with the allegations and cries 'I'm sick,' and scuttles off to a private health facility. Pausing only to instruct his solicitors to get the young person involved to issue an Edwards-funded statement of no foul, he then sent his wife out to face the media. Classy.

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teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 13:34

LakeTiticaca · 19/09/2023 12:33

He may not have committed an offence but his behaviour was sleazy and unpleasant. Committed Christian my arse (no pun intended 😉) he gave no consideration to his poor wife and children. How humiliated must they feel?
They must be sickened.
How convenient that his mental breakdown occurred just after he was caught out.
I doubt he will read the BBC news again, surely nobody is that brass necked (apart from Russell Brand possibly)

My sentiments exactly. If the man had any honour, he would have resigned on the day he was confronted. But no, he prefers to continue to draw his £500,000 annual salary. Appalling.

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teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 13:37

PietariKontio · 19/09/2023 12:32

Many people who are mentally unwell do behave in ways when unwell that they would never do when well. You can deny it's a reason all day long, but people who are experts in mental health, people who have mental health conditions, and indeed the law, all know differently.

Never heard of one sending texts to youngsters asking for explicit material for money before. And if he knew he was 'ill,' why didn't he stand down from the job and get help?

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teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 13:40

I'm curious what assumptions I am supposed to have made in starting this thread. Everything I wrote is in the public domain. He did go to a private health facility within hours of being confronted reference his behaviour. He has been suspended by the BBC. His wife was the one who faced the media and the 'victim' says the statement they made was prepared by solicitors funded by HE. Where are the assumptions?

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Sleepo · 19/09/2023 13:40

have no interest in whether HW has committed criminal acts - I rather suspect he is far too buttoned-up to do anything other than look

Being unlikely to commit a criminal offence is bad now?

teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 13:43

Sleepo · 19/09/2023 13:40

have no interest in whether HW has committed criminal acts - I rather suspect he is far too buttoned-up to do anything other than look

Being unlikely to commit a criminal offence is bad now?

I am afraid I don't understand your comment at all. He may or may not have committed a crime - I simply do not know. But what must surely be obvious is that his behaviour is incompatible with his job and responsibilities.

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teddyandgypsy · 19/09/2023 13:46

The BBC has been good to HE. He has had a long and illustrious career despite not being particularly charismatic or having any forensic journalistic characteristics. I am told by BBC workers that he was a terrible brown-noser which may have something to do with his success. However, the fact remains that he has had a good innings, earnt an incredible amount of money and should now do the honourable thing and resign - not to continue to play the sick card.

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LakeTiticaca · 19/09/2023 13:47

BIossomtoes · 19/09/2023 12:39

How convenient that his mental breakdown occurred just after he was caught out.

Highly inconvenient I’d say. That witch hunt was enough to tip anyone over the edge, let alone someone whose mental health was precarious.

He knew, as a highly respected public figure indulging in very risky behaviour, that if (when ) he was caught out there would be a big storm of publicity.
He should probably just do the decent thing and resign

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