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AIBU to collect antique items that some people find creepy?

22 replies

PicnicAtTheDisco · 15/09/2023 20:27

I collect antique jewellery from the Georgian and Victorian periods.

I have several mourning brooches - for the uninitiated (and I know there won't be many but just in case!) these are items of memorial jewellery. A section of the deceased loved one's hair is coiled and plaited and housed in the brooch behind a crystal plate usually. The back is engraved with the name, date of death and age of the person.

You can also gets rings etc, same principle.

Anyway, I haven't deliberately sought out my mourning jewellery (kind of inherited these pieces) but I found myself looking at a beautiful mourning ring and just wondered if it's a bit .... morbid?

They're a couple of hundred years old so not in the slightest bit recent

So. Creepy? Or touching and remembering those who've passed?

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EvilElsa · 15/09/2023 20:29

I'd love it personally. I see it as keeping someone's precious things safe and treasuring their memory.

TowerRaven7 · 15/09/2023 20:33

You should collect anything you like! I’m ‘morbid’ too though. To be honest it’s no different then getting a tattoo with a loved one’s remains or wearing cremains in a locket.

Isseywith3witchycats · 15/09/2023 20:36

Some of this jewellery is very ornate and collecting these is just like any collectable

MillicentMaybe · 15/09/2023 20:38

I love that kind of jewellery.

qazxc · 15/09/2023 20:38

Nope, I wouldn't consider it morbid. A lot of pieces are beautiful pieces of jewellery in their own right. It's not like you are collecting body parts in jars of formaldehyde.

Scruffington · 15/09/2023 20:44

it wouldn't be for me having locks of someone else's hair in my home, I'd find it a bit icky, but wouldn't think anything of someone else collecting this kind of thing. are you a Goth? it's the kind of thing I'd imagine a lovely mournful goth collecting.

Victorian death portraits give me the chills though and I would find it odd if someone decorated their home with those. For me they're a whole other level of creepy.

Diversion · 15/09/2023 20:45

I would love a collection of mourning brooches and lockets. I think them very beautiful and especially those with a photo of the person in the other half of the locket. I would love to see a photo of yours if you would be willing to share.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/09/2023 20:45

I think it sounds fascinating and endearing. I wish you would post some pictures of them.

SandyPrawnCracker · 15/09/2023 20:46

You would only be unreasonable if you attempted to clone these people from their hair samples

Aquamarine1029 · 15/09/2023 20:46

SandyPrawnCracker · 15/09/2023 20:46

You would only be unreasonable if you attempted to clone these people from their hair samples

Very true. Don't do this.

PicnicAtTheDisco · 15/09/2023 20:48

@Scruffington oh gosh that just made me howl with laughter! I'm about as far removed from a goth as you can get unless Goths are now dressing head to toe in Jigsaw and Scamp & Dude? Grin

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SarahAndQuack · 15/09/2023 20:48

Scruffington · 15/09/2023 20:44

it wouldn't be for me having locks of someone else's hair in my home, I'd find it a bit icky, but wouldn't think anything of someone else collecting this kind of thing. are you a Goth? it's the kind of thing I'd imagine a lovely mournful goth collecting.

Victorian death portraits give me the chills though and I would find it odd if someone decorated their home with those. For me they're a whole other level of creepy.

If it makes you feel better, they're not that common. There's a bit of a fashion at the moment for identifying any Victorian picture including children - or even not including children - as a death portrait. I've even seen ones where the supposedly 'dead' subject can be identified with certainty, and was known to have gone on to live a full and happy life! I think it's because, of course, you had to sit very still for Victorian portraits. People with a (genuinely) morbid turn of mind start clutching at straws and saying 'ooh, the little girl is being held by her mum, she must be dead!' rather than realising the mum is holding her child to keep her still!

PicnicAtTheDisco · 15/09/2023 20:50

I will take some pics tomorrow and post them! I collect intaglios too but they're not creepy

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ArcticBells · 15/09/2023 20:52

I watched a programme on the Duchess of Northumberland who collects taxidermy including stuffed rats and dogs. Now that imo is really weird so crack on

10HailMarys · 15/09/2023 20:54

I collect things precisely because they’re creepy!

Scruffington · 15/09/2023 20:56

SarahAndQuack · 15/09/2023 20:48

If it makes you feel better, they're not that common. There's a bit of a fashion at the moment for identifying any Victorian picture including children - or even not including children - as a death portrait. I've even seen ones where the supposedly 'dead' subject can be identified with certainty, and was known to have gone on to live a full and happy life! I think it's because, of course, you had to sit very still for Victorian portraits. People with a (genuinely) morbid turn of mind start clutching at straws and saying 'ooh, the little girl is being held by her mum, she must be dead!' rather than realising the mum is holding her child to keep her still!

Yes I was on some facebook group where people claimed every photo of a Victorian infant was a death portrait. And you can clearly see the difference between a living child who's being clasped still and one who's deceased. Just makes me sad (and a bit discombobulated) imagining the logistics involved in bringing your recently dead loved one to a photographer's studio to have their portrait taken.

Scruffington · 15/09/2023 20:58

PicnicAtTheDisco · 15/09/2023 20:48

@Scruffington oh gosh that just made me howl with laughter! I'm about as far removed from a goth as you can get unless Goths are now dressing head to toe in Jigsaw and Scamp & Dude? Grin

Grin

Yes, Scamp and Dude is maybe a teensy bit jazzy for the goths.

SarahAndQuack · 15/09/2023 20:58

It is very sad. But in a culture where you wouldn't have all the photos and mementos we tend to have, it must have been very precious. Rather like the way some bereaved parents are comforted by having foot or hand prints for a stillborn baby.

Notpooryet · 15/09/2023 21:00

SarahAndQuack · 15/09/2023 20:48

If it makes you feel better, they're not that common. There's a bit of a fashion at the moment for identifying any Victorian picture including children - or even not including children - as a death portrait. I've even seen ones where the supposedly 'dead' subject can be identified with certainty, and was known to have gone on to live a full and happy life! I think it's because, of course, you had to sit very still for Victorian portraits. People with a (genuinely) morbid turn of mind start clutching at straws and saying 'ooh, the little girl is being held by her mum, she must be dead!' rather than realising the mum is holding her child to keep her still!

Same with stands to hold the child still. Not holding up a body!
That said, we have a family post mortem photo (the little girl is lying limp on her mother's lap and we know she had died). Very sad.

PicnicAtTheDisco · 15/09/2023 21:04

I think it's making me feel a bit .. intrusive?

My brain is telling me I have no right to own something that probably belonged to a relative of 'Frances Bennett' who died in 1824

So I keep thinking 'erk, I have someone called Frances' hair in my jewellery box'

But I don't feel that way about my antique letters, intaglios and jewellery

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AuntieMarys · 15/09/2023 21:04

10HailMarys · 15/09/2023 20:54

I collect things precisely because they’re creepy!

So do I!!!

BigSadie · 16/09/2023 08:42

Cool. I've a skull somewhere.

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