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Am I being controlling?

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controllingorcontrolled · 14/09/2023 09:36

Nc for this.

I'm being accused by my young teen of being controlling over what are eats.

She possibly has autism but is refusing to be assessed saying she is fine.

Every shop I do I check with her what she would like me to get, what meals she'd like and I check daily what she wants for tea. I've asked her time and time again to give me 7 meals that she will eat. She has done but then decides she no longer likes some things on it or doesn't want that meal on the day I plan to make it. The amount of food wasted is criminal.
Many of the things she wants are things that I might not have in or that her younger sibling and I don't want it don't really like. I don't really want to be making 3 different meals.

I bake weekly so that she has something for break because she doesn't like the school meals and says there is only one option to eat when school tells me there's at least 5 choices she could have. She will often just get pizza, or a cookie and a bottle of water despite having an expensive insulated water bottle that I fill with iced water each day for her. Water is available for free at school from the water fountains. Whatever I bake that she likes she decides she now doesn't like and won't eat it.

Our favourite family restaurant is now somewhere she doesn't like so birthdays are tricky and she wants me to cook an elaborate meal instead. Her sibling wants to go to the restaurant but she will sit there miserable because there's nothing she likes or she doesn't like that particular version of cheese and tomato pizza.

She complains there is no food in the house and that she thinks we are poor because of it. There's lots of food but not ready to eat snacks all the time. I've reduced the amount of crisps I buy because she eats them within 2 days and leaves her rubbish all over the house. She still has crisps more days than she doesn't because I do buy them and her grandad buys them so she can have them at his house which we visit twice a week.

Left to her own devices she'd eat bagels, but they have to be a certain brand, crisps, chocolate, sweets.

Her sleep is dreadful, she's always tired, low in iron, gets headaches and feels sick. It's obviously due to poor diet and barely eating at meal times but she refuses to accept that.

Trying to get her to eat some fruit and veg is met with resistance. She will only eat x or y but that's not guaranteed and if I make something I know she likes she'll decide she doesn't like it or doesn't want it that day.

Because of all this in order for her to eat decently I have to make something different for her or she would just go hungry.

The above means I would like to eat like lasagne or other pasta dishes, rice dishes and soups are off the menu because I don't have time money to make that for me then something else for her.

At her dad's she only eats chips and he's getting pissed off with meal times revolving around what she wants.

When we go for days out she will only eat one thing, a bought picnic for say the beach ends up costing a fortune with lots of waste because she wants something that comes in a big packet to share and we either have to eat it too or it's the rest is wasted.
At weekends are won't get up and doesn't have breakfast until about 2pm then she's not hungry get for tea when we are.
She eats well if it's what she wants when she wants it and if it's exactly like she wants it.
The orthodontist has told her are needs to stop eating 2 hours before bed. She angrily told me I'd have to give her more food at tea time but she rarely finishes what I give her.

I involve her in shopping, in meal planning and food prep, have about 30 cookery books that I've asked her to choose something from but no, I'm controlling.

Every day I dread mealtimes. It's like running a cafe for the world's harshest food critic. I try my best to accommodate her but it's never good enough.

I'm exhausted but maybe I'm the one in the wrong.

OP posts:
FatherJoseFernandez · 14/09/2023 09:50

How old is she OP? Have you spoken to the school about her possible Autism? Is there a SENCO at school who could speak to her and assess her without her knowing? I have one fussy eater and I hide as many vegetables in a tomato based pasta sauce (and add a stir in shop bought one for flavour) and use that to make spag Bol, pasta bake, lasagne etc. However that’s no good to you if she won’t even try it! Could you maybe involve her in cooking / baking things she will eat like cookies and try and move onto meals? My fussy DS loves helping me in the kitchen and is more inclined to eat what he’s helped to make.

I make sure my DS has a multi vitamin, we make homemade milk shakes and smoothies with different fruit in.

it doesn’t sound as if you are controlling at all, just an exasperated parent trying to get their child to eat healthily!

Bubblesgun · 14/09/2023 10:25

It could be ARFID - Avoidand/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder.
I m on the helpline for an ED charity.

I would suggest you make an appointment with your GP on your own and you explain what you have said in your OP. Then you make an appt for your child with said GP and see what he/she says.

ARFID is one of the most difficult ED to diagnose because there is a belief that it is a child being fussy eater.
we always say that GPs hold the key to any program/referral. Sho it should be your first port of call.

have a look online at what ARFID is.

remember though that if your child is suffering from an ED, it isnt the child that is doing it on purpose. It is the ED’s voice in their head that push them to do it.
it is very impprtant to separate the child from the ED. And yes it can be frustrating for the parent. But it isnt the child’s fault.

good luck

stayathomer · 14/09/2023 10:33

op she sounds like a teenager. Fussy, indecisive, wants it all but wants nothing. There’s a lot of us in the same boat. So yes while you’re having her assessed and know her better than anyone, there’s nt teenagers that are the same. It’s exhausting, we’ve the same, my so. Has his list and his ideas and jokes that he eats at least one food off each part of the food pyramid so he’s fine. I look at the food planning parts of mn and I want to cry. He was such a good eater as a child but then out of nowhere turned fussy. The rest of my family have different issues (one hates breakfast, another fruit, another lunches!) The only thing I’m grateful for is he lives for fruit and most protein. Everything else, battle daily. You are doing everything that you can, try not to be too upset with her, it must be hard, I was a fussy teen and my biggest memory was my dad (who never ever got irritated or mad) sighing one day at a restaurant and saying to my mum to ask for a kids menu because I was humming and hawing. I pretended to love what I ordered and choked my way through it

controllingorcontrolled · 14/09/2023 11:06

She happily eats all sorts at friends' houses though. Fussy is one thing but this is taking the piss considering how involved I get her in meals and shopping. Then to turn round and say I'm controlling what she can eat has really upset me.

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towriteyoumustlive · 14/09/2023 11:21

She is the one being controlling in this scenario. Particularly if she eats all sorts at friends houses!

How old is she?

My son used to be a nightmare, so I just stopped playing "the game" and served one family meal. I would always separate carbs, sauces, veg etc... so there would be something simple he would eat. If he started kicking up a fuss I pretty much ignored him and just say "ok" then carried on talking with the others about something random. I also had a reward system for trying new things. Just a small taste. The improvement over 3 years is amazing. He is still suspicious of anything new and still has things he refuses to try, but meals are much less of a battle.

Sirzy · 14/09/2023 11:26

You’re making it into a battle ground by engaging so much in conversation about it. Make sure she has things in that she will eat but don’t get into long debates about what she should or shouldn’t be eating.

if she wants to cook herself a bagel instead of the meal then that’s fine. She has still eaten but there is no battle.

Beadyeyes91 · 14/09/2023 12:36

I have no solution but I genuinely feel sorry for you. Its not easy and you are trying your best.

WhatsForTeaMama · 14/09/2023 12:50

When you cook a mean put her portion in a freezable container then gradually she will have a selection to pick from when she doesn't want what's on offer and there won't be meals in the bin.

My son is autistic and he will only eat 2 kinds of cheese pizza and he knows the difference. It's connoting but they can't control it.

Sometimes my son will just have cereal for tea or a "cold tea" if he doesn't want what everyone else wants, which is basically a sandwich, crisps, cucumber, pepper and some fruit.

controllingorcontrolled · 14/09/2023 13:01

I do batch cook some things for her.

I don't think it is AFRID because she eats plenty of all sorts at friends houses.

Some things she really doesn't like and I'd never give her those things. It's when it's something she likes and has asked me to get then decides she doesn't like it today that I get annoyed.

I happily make the same meal in 3 different ways because we all like it slightly different and that particular meal is easy to do that with. I can't do it with all meals.

School and GP are useless btw. I've approached them many times.

OP posts:
towriteyoumustlive · 14/09/2023 13:33

controllingorcontrolled · 14/09/2023 13:01

I do batch cook some things for her.

I don't think it is AFRID because she eats plenty of all sorts at friends houses.

Some things she really doesn't like and I'd never give her those things. It's when it's something she likes and has asked me to get then decides she doesn't like it today that I get annoyed.

I happily make the same meal in 3 different ways because we all like it slightly different and that particular meal is easy to do that with. I can't do it with all meals.

School and GP are useless btw. I've approached them many times.

I don't think it's ARFID given she has no problem eating all sorts at friends houses.

I think you are wasting your time getting annoyed at her. Just cook a meal for the family, try and make sure there is one thing on the table she should like (that is healthy) and if she doesn't want to eat it then no big deal. Just say "ok, never mind" then carry on talking about something else. No discussions, ignore any tantrums over it.

ManchesterLu · 14/09/2023 13:34

It's such a difficult situation, but I don't think you can let your DD dictate quite so much.

You say she gives you a list of meals she will eat. Make her one of those meals and if she refuses, she can instead eat fruit/yogurt/toast/cereal for dinner.

Honestly, your mental health won't be able to sustain this in the long term. Until she's old enough to make her own meals (assuming that's not right now) she either eats what you cook or can snack from a selection of reasonably healthy alternatives.

Schoolchoicesucks · 14/09/2023 13:46

OP, does or would she cook?

What does she eat at friends' houses?

I agree that you need to reduce the stress this is causing everyone.

She has low iron - does she take supplements? If so then stop worrying about this.

If you stop making her lunches, she would either go hungry, buy something (possibly not as healthy as you'd like) or eat the school food.

If you make a family meal that she won't eat, she will either go hungry, fix herself a snack (bagel) or adjust.

Will she eat "ready meal" version's of things? Bol pots or similar are veg filled - I know they are processed but better than a bag of crisps.

Can you take the heat out of the situation by not fretting (visibly) over what she eats. She eats or she doesn't. Have bagels and fruit and easy for her to fix alternatives available - and she does that not you.

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