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Dr refused anti anxiety meds

256 replies

anxiousflight · 12/09/2023 18:01

Long history of depression and anxiety, it is mostly under control but something can set my anxiety off and I'll be bad for a couple of weeks.

I've recently moved drs surgery as moved house and my old GP would always give me about 10 diazepam or lorazepam a year, to help me through anxious periods.

I hate hate hate taking off on a flight and this has triggered my anxiety the past couple of weeks as I fly tomorrow first thing.

I booked an appt with new GP and first appt available was yesterday, the duty Dr said she was not happy to prescribe any diazepam as if there was an emergency I wouldn't be able to get off the plane??? I said, they help me rationalise and keep calm, they don't knock me out. She wasn't happy so said she'd get my actual GP to call me today. The receptionist called me at 4pm and said that my GP isn't happy to prescribe them either. Not happy that I was promised a call from my GP but she avoided the conversation and asked the receptionist to call me so I couldn't speak to anyone medically trained to help me. My medical records are there for drs to see so I cant understand at all why they couldn't issue me a small prescription.

I can't take propanalol due to an adverse reaction with my asthma a few years ago. So now I'm stuck without anything at all and I'm so panicky, I leave my house at 1:30am tomorrow morning.

Does anyone know if I call 111 will they be able to prescribe anything?

OP posts:
Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 21:43

I'm a Welsh benzo addict today! Even my use of the term gives me away!! Oh yes I'm also the parent of an autistic child and I'm sure I've been in an abusive relationship. And that's just today. I can only imagine what tomorrow will bring.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 12/09/2023 21:45

Used to love diazapam for flying but have alchohol instead as they won't prescribe

D1nopawus · 12/09/2023 21:45

There is a certain irony that someone who is anxious about flying wanting to take a medication that isn't recommended.

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 21:45

SomeCatFromJapan · 12/09/2023 21:41

Diazepam before an exam !! This thread is beyond

2mg, prescribed by my gp, yes. Why does that shock you?
I got a first thanks to that.

Someone is going to shriek at you about it being a Class 2 drug now. How's the addiction coming along? Did you need to be carried out of the exam hall?

Weathergirl007 · 12/09/2023 21:45

Genuine question as interested! Have there been recent cases where someone has taken diazepam on a flight which has resulted in an issue which is why GPs are being discouraged to prescribe?

Rounee · 12/09/2023 21:45

XenoBitch · 12/09/2023 21:42

I am severely needle phobic, and my GP wont prescribe anything if I need to have an injection/blood test.

You can buy numbing cream over the counter without a prescription.

Gingernaut · 12/09/2023 21:45

https://everesthouse.co.uk/prescriptions/practice-stance-on-prescribing-of-diazepam-for-fear-of-flying/

Because of the near paralysis it can cause it increases the risk of blood clots, it can depress breathing so is not recommended for asthmatics (how on earth did you find a doctor to prescribe this shit???), can cause unpredictable and aberrant behaviour, does not mix well with alcohol, over the counter the counter, off the shelf illicit and prescription drugs and doctors have been told not to prescribe it for fear of flying

You knew you were flying, you could have had counselling, therapy or sought alternatives

Practice stance on prescribing of Diazepam for Fear of Flying

Practice Website for Everest House Surgery

https://everesthouse.co.uk/prescriptions/practice-stance-on-prescribing-of-diazepam-for-fear-of-flying

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 21:49

Rounee · 12/09/2023 21:45

You can buy numbing cream over the counter without a prescription.

Oh that'll do the trick. Aren't you clever. You've found a cure for needle phobia! And it's over the counter. Beautiful.

SomeCatFromJapan · 12/09/2023 21:49

Someone is going to shriek at you about it being a Class 2 drug now. How's the addiction coming along? Did you need to be carried out of the exam hall?

😂
I'm afraid that while I passed my exams, I failed miserably at becoming an addict despite my shocking abuse of prescription medication.

StudentNurse3 · 12/09/2023 21:50

I do find it annoying when you have been prescribed something long term and suddenly a Dr wants to change it. You can't just stop without finding some kind of alternative. I take lorazapam and a Dr stopped them without notice once. Luckily another Dr over rode them.

Katrinawaves · 12/09/2023 21:51

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 21:45

Someone is going to shriek at you about it being a Class 2 drug now. How's the addiction coming along? Did you need to be carried out of the exam hall?

You are so blasé about a drug that has destroyed a lot of lives in the past due to its highly addictive qualities and should really only be prescribed in exceptional circumstances.

I’ve been prescribed it in the past for short term use. It’s fantastic stuff - made me feel terrific. I could totally see how easy it would be to get addicted but fortunately for me I had a responsible doctor like mumbles so it never became an option!

XenoBitch · 12/09/2023 21:51

Rounee · 12/09/2023 21:45

You can buy numbing cream over the counter without a prescription.

It is not about the pain for me. Plus those creams do not work on me.

Gingernaut · 12/09/2023 21:52

Weathergirl007 · 12/09/2023 21:45

Genuine question as interested! Have there been recent cases where someone has taken diazepam on a flight which has resulted in an issue which is why GPs are being discouraged to prescribe?

Mixed with alcohol, you can effectively 'roofie' yourself - you can end up behaving in a psychotic manner and have no memory or knowledge of it

Paranoia, aggression, hysteria - with the underlying terror of flying not sorted, but now with added psychosis

Many flight crews blame benzodiazepines for this sort of display

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/american-airlines-passenger-meltdown-b2372287.html

Sunandstorms · 12/09/2023 21:53

@XenoBitch my 7 year old is severely needlephobic too after a year of chemo. For some reason no one’s suggested prescribing diazepam for her either. Because it’s not recommended because of the risks

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 21:53

SomeCatFromJapan · 12/09/2023 21:49

Someone is going to shriek at you about it being a Class 2 drug now. How's the addiction coming along? Did you need to be carried out of the exam hall?

😂
I'm afraid that while I passed my exams, I failed miserably at becoming an addict despite my shocking abuse of prescription medication.

You mean to tell me you survived the near paralysis, the blood clots, the respiratory depression, the asthma, the unpredictable and aberrant behaviour?! You're a miracle of nature will no doubt be the subject of intensive scientific research.

Rounee · 12/09/2023 21:54

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 21:49

Oh that'll do the trick. Aren't you clever. You've found a cure for needle phobia! And it's over the counter. Beautiful.

Bless you 😂

Castleview6 · 12/09/2023 21:54

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 18:19

Do you know anyone else with anxiety who might have it prescribed and could give you one to get you through the flight? You'll have to sort out some other solution long term from the sound of things as you've fallen foul of a change in policy. You'll find it difficult to find a GP who'll treat your response to diazepam or lorazepam as an individual.

This is a ridiculous suggestion - you can’t take someone else’s prescription.

HateLongCovid · 12/09/2023 21:54

Thethruththewholetruth · 12/09/2023 18:24

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be honest. You need to find a better way to control your anxiety if it’s a long term issue. Relying on addictive medication isn’t the answer.

How b***y helpful NOT! Because it's so easy to control anxiety isn't it? 🤬

Rounee · 12/09/2023 21:56

HateLongCovid · 12/09/2023 21:54

How b***y helpful NOT! Because it's so easy to control anxiety isn't it? 🤬

Well what other option is there if they won't prescribe it?

StudentNurse3 · 12/09/2023 21:58

MumblesParty · 12/09/2023 21:13

Well I’ve been a GP for 25 years and personally I would never prescribe benzodiazepines to someone who called them benzos

You'd never prescribe them to someone who knows they are called benzos? Bet you don't like patients reading the BNF either!

ShadyPaws · 12/09/2023 21:58

ladeluge · 12/09/2023 19:29

When and for whom ARE benzos prescribed by GPs?

I had them for severe sciatica
Paracetamol, dihydrocodeine, naproxen, diazepam and then went to oramorph
Doesn't affect me at all, I was on max dose of the lot and still working FT
I mean until my back totally gave up it's one job Grin and I had an emergency operation

Sleeping tablets are like gold dust too. The doctor gave me 3 after my mums death and I did ask who had to die to get a weeks worth

Castleview6 · 12/09/2023 21:59

anxiousflight · 12/09/2023 18:18

Thanks everyone, doesn't look like I'll get anything in time as I leave 7 hours 😢

I'm just angry that my GP didn't call me and passed a message through reception instead, I could have done with speaking to somebody medically trained and seeing if they could give me an alternative.

I have been through lots of different therapy and meds since I was 14, nothing takes the edge off when I'm as bad as this other than diazepam or lorazepam.

Maybe your Dr was really busy seeing sick people rather than ones who want drugs prescribed to go on holiday. You did speak to someone medically trained - the Duty Dr - who then checked with your Dr and the answer was still no. I think it was an excellent use of NHS resources for the message to be passed to you so the Dr could have more appointments with ill people. If flying makes you so anxious maybe consider other forms of travel

grenadeapple · 12/09/2023 22:00

SlippySarah · 12/09/2023 21:41

Sadly, learning skills such as putting mind over matter and putting in the effort to get over your fears isn't really in fashion these days when it's much easier to call the GP and just pop a pill to "take the edge off".

I don't really like the over medicalisation of every issue and the idea that individuals should be able to demand medication the day before a flight like its a normal thing to do.

This. But it’s a skill that needs practice tbf.

Vettrianofan · 12/09/2023 22:01

DonnaBanana · 12/09/2023 20:59

A good first generation antihistamine can get the same slightly sedated calming effect btw it’s why they sell them as flying sleep aids in American airports but you can rustle them up here as well

Great idea. OP have you considered this option as a one off?

Pollyputhekettleon · 12/09/2023 22:02

Katrinawaves · 12/09/2023 21:51

You are so blasé about a drug that has destroyed a lot of lives in the past due to its highly addictive qualities and should really only be prescribed in exceptional circumstances.

I’ve been prescribed it in the past for short term use. It’s fantastic stuff - made me feel terrific. I could totally see how easy it would be to get addicted but fortunately for me I had a responsible doctor like mumbles so it never became an option!

The OP takes a maximum of 10 per year and has done for many years. She is at no risk of addiction. She's a real patient who deserved proper professional care, today, in her specific individual circumstances. She didn't get it because of a robotic adherence to guidelines, applied without the slightest trace of intelligence, and motivated by the kind of hysteria you display. And she's not the only one let down in this way. The girl having a severe panic attack in hospital who was refused any medication and prescribed CBT? So, yes, we're going to joke about it. Black humour is very appropriate.

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