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What can your child do

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Itsavibehun · 11/09/2023 15:52

Or what could they do, at just turned 5?

Not a pushy mum at all and generally quite relaxed, plus I realise they all learn at their own pace. However, i’m just curious what your 5 year old knows/knew. My Dd isn’t in British education, so I’m a bit worried I should be doing more at home.
Dd can count up to 100 (some mistakes) She can write her numbers to 10 (some backwards)
She knows all her letter sounds and can write letters (isn’t keen to write yet though for fun) but can do her name if reminded,
She can put sounds together and easily read short words, but can’t read an easy book yet, or doesn’t seem to want to/concentrate long enough
She can do addition and subtraction to 10 easily, both verbal & written
My main issue is if we do anything at home, she won’t concentrate for over 5 minutes and gets bored
Is this all pretty *Normal/standard
Am I worrying too much?

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Itsavibehun · 11/09/2023 16:01

Anyone?

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florafoxtrot · 11/09/2023 16:04

Sounds exactly the same as my DD - she was 5 at the end of last month and has just started primary school.

jannier · 11/09/2023 16:11

Sounds perfectly normal for a 5 year old most entering reception can't do all this.

givemushypeasachance · 11/09/2023 16:13

Children turn 5 in reception class in the UK and that marks the end of EYFS here, so you could look at what the Early Learning Goals are - where children would be expected to reach by the end of their reception year. Obviously not all kids do reach these points at the same time, and if you're somewhere where there isn't teaching yet there wouldn't have been the same focus on the start of phonics and so on for a year between ages 4-5.

ELG: Word Reading
Children at the expected level of development will:

  • Say a sound for each letter in the alphabet and at least 10 digraphs;
  • Read words consistent with their phonic knowledge by sound-blending;
  • Read aloud simple sentences and books that are consistent with their phonic knowledge, including some common exception words.
ELG: Writing Children at the expected level of development will:
  • Write recognisable letters, most of which are correctly formed;
  • Spell words by identifying sounds in them and representing the sounds with a letter or letters;
  • Write simple phrases and sentences that can be read by others.
Mathematics ELG: Number Children at the expected level of development will:
  • Have a deep understanding of number to 10, including the composition of each number;
  • Subitise (recognise quantities without counting) up to 5;
  • Automatically recall (without reference to rhymes, counting or other aids) number bonds up to 5 (including subtraction facts) and some number bonds to 10, including double facts.
ELG: Numerical Patterns Children at the expected level of development will:
  • Verbally count beyond 20, recognising the pattern of the counting system;
  • Compare quantities up to 10 in different contexts, recognising when one quantity is greater than, less than or the same as the other quantity;
  • Explore and represent patterns within numbers up to 10, including evens and odds, double facts and how quantities can be distributed equally.

The ELGs aren't just academic, for what it's worth! E.g.

ELG: Building Relationships
Children at the expected level of development will:

  • Work and play cooperatively and take turns with others;
  • Form positive attachments to adults and friendships with peers;
  • Show sensitivity to their own and to others’ needs.
Itsavibehun · 11/09/2023 16:21

@givemushypeasachance Would this be by the end of this school year, so before she turns 6?
They only start formal learning where we are at age 6, the knowledge she has so far is from bits we’ve done at school

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Itsavibehun · 11/09/2023 16:21

*Home, not school

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givemushypeasachance · 11/09/2023 16:31

Itsavibehun · 11/09/2023 16:21

@givemushypeasachance Would this be by the end of this school year, so before she turns 6?
They only start formal learning where we are at age 6, the knowledge she has so far is from bits we’ve done at school

It depends whether you feel the ELGs are something you should achieve solely by age/development or as the result of the teaching most UK children get in paid childcare (most kids attend at least some pre-school) and then a year of reception. It's probably a mix of the two - the social, emotional, physical development are probably easier to come naturally but if you're not getting some at least semi-formal teaching you're not necessarily going to understand phonics and be writing letters.

But yes in the UK EYFS ends at the end of reception year, so kids are at least 5 or about to turn 5 in the summer holidays, some will be almost 6.

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