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What would you do?

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hedgehod · 11/09/2023 08:40

I am being told all different things by family members and my head is all over the place. Basically, I have a three year old who has never met his dad. His dad and I have always been in contact, he’s always paid, but despite how often I suggested he meet ds, he just never did. There were times when he seemed really keen to meet but then never followed through. It was v hard for me to remain civil with him as I have always thought he was utterly vile for not seeing his son. Anyway, when ds was around 2 I said if you don’t meet him soon he will become aware of it. I said we could still avoid that by him seeing him now and then so that was DS’s ‘normal’ and so didn’t cause him any upset. There was some acknowledgment of this by his dad and I was hopeful he would then actually see him. He didn’t, and by this point I had enough and stopped engaging with him on small talk and just said let me know if you change your mind but otherwise I will assume you’re going to be absent.

Ds then started asking about his dad when he was around 3. I had to go through the entire ‘some people can’t be dads’ , he seemed to accept it. Now ds is nearly four, his dad suddenly seems eager to see him again. Part of me wishes he now stayed away but if I do let him do this, I want to know he’s not going to mess ds about. My family are saying don’t rock the boat, it’s great he wants to see him finally etc etc but I fear this could be very damaging if I don’t know his dad’s true intentions or if he will be consistent? The man is not young and has no other dc so I don’t have much faith in him anymore, he’s had every chance to see him and now does this years later?? I am so conflicted and to be honest I’ve heard years of tiptoeing round him, I don’t know if I could do it again just for him to let ds down?

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towriteyoumustlive · 11/09/2023 10:00

Lots of kids see one parent sporadically for various reasons. A friend of mine's wife is in the army so often away for long periods of time so they see mummy when she's back.

The key is not making promises that can't be kept. Seeing him sporadically is fine, and a child can understand that. What is not ok is him promising to see him every month then cancelling.

So just be clear that he is not to promise him anything if he cannot stick to it.

Elfblossom · 11/09/2023 10:11

I'm in a similar position but further down the line.

My son is 14.

His 'Dad' came and saw him once.

Basically, we were in a relationship, I got pregnant (with a coil) and he said 'keep it & we're over or get rid & we'll carry on as we are' ... Dear Reader, I made the right choice 😉

He stopped contact but, every few months or so I'd get a 'I miss you' text ...

I found out that he'd lied about quite a few things and our son was a secret to his family.

He since married & had another child who's 7 (and he has an older daughter).

I've always been completely honest with my son, answered any questions he has.

If his Dad wanted to be and I believed he'd be a consistent, positive addition to my sons life then I'd welcome him but, he's proven time and time again that he's not so, until my son is able to deal with the fallout without suffering - I'll do what's best for my son.

No Dad is always better than a bad Dad.

hedgehod · 11/09/2023 10:22

@towriteyoumustlive ok thanks that’s helpful. So really I needn’t worry if he’s going to dip in and out as long as he’s not making false promises?

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hedgehod · 11/09/2023 10:25

@Elfblossom gosh how awful that man is! I am sure DS’s dad keeps him secret to some people but I think that’s down to shame. I was also in a relationship with his dad and it is mind boggling he has done what he’s done tbh. How has your dc found it as he’s got older? I have no partner unlikely to have, so he doesn’t have a father figure sadly.

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towriteyoumustlive · 11/09/2023 10:42

hedgehod · 11/09/2023 10:22

@towriteyoumustlive ok thanks that’s helpful. So really I needn’t worry if he’s going to dip in and out as long as he’s not making false promises?

Yes exactly that. Sporadic is absolutely fine. You just explain that daddy is super busy the rest of the time. If there's no expectation of regular contact then there is no let downs or sadness.

Broken promises are what you don't need. I'm much rather have sporadic and no dedicated commitment than a promise of regular commitment then letting you both down.

Your son already has routine with you. Seeing daddy would just become something like a random trip to a zoo! Something fun/nice that happens occasionally.

I think people get far too obsessed with regular contact. It's not the be all and end all. Some people just cannot manage that.

hedgehod · 11/09/2023 10:53

towriteyoumustlive · 11/09/2023 10:42

Yes exactly that. Sporadic is absolutely fine. You just explain that daddy is super busy the rest of the time. If there's no expectation of regular contact then there is no let downs or sadness.

Broken promises are what you don't need. I'm much rather have sporadic and no dedicated commitment than a promise of regular commitment then letting you both down.

Your son already has routine with you. Seeing daddy would just become something like a random trip to a zoo! Something fun/nice that happens occasionally.

I think people get far too obsessed with regular contact. It's not the be all and end all. Some people just cannot manage that.

Thanks @towriteyoumustlive . This has offered a different perspective I hadn’t considered. I was worried ds would start asking when the next meet would be but if we keep it loose and that’s how it is then he knows no different I guess? I am so sick of being nice to the man who has treated his child like shit… hopefully one day my stamina for that will pay off and he will be decent.

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Elfblossom · 11/09/2023 15:35

hedgehod · 11/09/2023 10:25

@Elfblossom gosh how awful that man is! I am sure DS’s dad keeps him secret to some people but I think that’s down to shame. I was also in a relationship with his dad and it is mind boggling he has done what he’s done tbh. How has your dc found it as he’s got older? I have no partner unlikely to have, so he doesn’t have a father figure sadly.

I was 6 months pregnant with my son when my then 13yo daughter suffered a Stroke - since then, life took completely different direction and I've been single since and likely to stay that way forever more.. so like you, no other 'father figure'.

I think being honest with him always has helped and as he's gotten older, it's gotten easier. He sees for himself that yes, he may well have missed out by not having a great Dad in his life but he's also gained by not having an awful one either.

As a poster above says - a treat visit Daddy is okay (maybe) but, tread carefully - a Dad IS a Dad, they know what a Dad is supposed to be like, to do and it's not supposed to be a 'treat' to see him once in blue moon.

And like me, you'll know if Dad is going to step up finally or if it's just a guilty conscience call.

My ex has an older daughter who has also now cut contact with him (she's 17) and a wife and a 7 year old son... none of whom know about my son.

So, he can't be open and honest with them as he's too far down the road of lies.

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