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Difficult Family Situation

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Butterfly953 · 10/09/2023 10:56

Looking for some advice/ideas on this situation if anyone has any - thanks in advance.

Mum and Dad divorced over 23 years ago. From my memories of living through it, Dad very much mistreated mum
(stonewalling, gaslighting etc over many years). Despite all this Mum has always wanted to be amicable (e.g. for birthdays, graduations etc) but Dad still to this day can't even bring himself to say hello unless she does first, grinds his teeth in her presence, has a face of thunder etc. That said, when I'm alone with him he uses me to try and find out info about her life. I feel sure he still loves her, despite how badly he treats her when he sees her.

After the divorce, both my sister and I were very equal in how we treated Mum and Dad. It worked well. 14 years ago, though, she married someone who has a very macho approach to life and an approach where everything seems to have to be done his way. I'd describe him as quite domineering/controlling.

Since then, things have totally fallen apart. For me, I just simply haven't been able to get on with who she has become (whilst I recognise people do and must change as life goes on, I just find her utterly unrecognisable /unrelatable) or gel with her husband. Despite attempts to reconcile, none have succeeded, so we have not had any contact for 2 years now. This is sad especially as I have a nephew who I will always love dearly, but I don't want my nephew to be around conflict, so haven't seen him either.

My mum has maintained contact longer than me, but has slowly been forced out, being told that Dad has the priority on seeing my nephew because 'he is the only one who has accepted my sister's husband'. My sister's husband's family are all very involved and they are all of a similar ilk and approach (e.g. my nephew is very much being steered down a route in relation to sport, that aligns with all of their preferred sports. I remember my sister asking my nephew his favourite sport and when he didnt reply what she wanted, she corrected him and told him that it was something different aligned to what her and her husband, her husband's family and my dad want it to be).

For a long while now my sister has taken to repeatedly screaming at mum when they speak, and being generally vile to her (verbally), to the point where mum cannot take any more and they have also banned my mum from seeing her own grandson until 'she changes'! She has also gaslighted her a few times.

Mum is absolutely devastated, really struggling to carry on with the situation as is and cannot see what she has done so wrong to deserve such cruel treatment. Neither can I - mum is one of the kindest, soft-hearted, loving people on this planet and has offered such kindness and support to both my sister and husband over the years, treating him no differently to anyone else.

They simply don't have a lot in common, but she has always been so very kind, fair, respectful and a wonderful mum in law that anyone would be so lucky to have. She has no need to change anything about herself. I am absolutely gutted for her, and continue to support her but am struggling myself as it has been going on for so long and sometimes, I really crave a release from it all.

Throughout all this, the relationship with my dad and I has suffered (he is very much in my sister's camp). I have only seen him once this year and it has now become very 'us' (me, my husband and mum) and 'them' (my sister, her husband, my dad).

I have most recently said to my dad that until my mum is treated better by all of them and she can see her grandson, it doesn't feel right to see him (things had been deteriorating between him and I in any event), and whilst I know this is a very low blow, I just don't know how else to change things for my mum. AIBU or are there any other ways to improve things for my mum?
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Offcom · 10/09/2023 11:00

To clarify, it’s your sister who married the macho guy 14 years ago, and not your mother?

Butterfly953 · 10/09/2023 11:01

Yes, sorry my sister.

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BobShark · 10/09/2023 11:10

This is a bit of a leap, but it sounds like your sister married a man like her dad, and has many of his traits.
You can't do anything to fix this on your mums behalf, just be there with her.

Butterfly953 · 10/09/2023 11:13

Thanks @bobshark. Good to get your view.

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InSpainTheRain · 10/09/2023 11:23

I dont there is anything that you can do to resolve this, although encouraging your mum to talk it through with a therapist or find other things to focus on may help her. I don't think you can change people's behaviour, only your response to it.

Butterfly953 · 10/09/2023 11:36

Thanks for your input @InSpainTheRain

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Offcom · 10/09/2023 11:36

It sounds awful. I was thinking something similar about your sister marrying a man like her father. This isn’t helpful at all but sympathy to you

Butterfly953 · 10/09/2023 12:12

Thanks @Offcom

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TheInfusionist · 10/09/2023 13:52

What changes are they suggesting your mum needs to make?

Butterfly953 · 10/09/2023 14:07

They aren't being specific.My sister just keeps saying 'and how are YOU going to change'. I think the bottom line is she wants my mum to buy into her husband more, ask more about their lives etc. For example, on my mums own birthday, mum invited them all round to her house and cooked a meal for the 3 of them and she was then criticised for not asking enough about them and their lives. Whatever she does she gets critiscised for. She does her upmost, but mum and my sisters husband just don't have a lot in common (and increasingly mum and my sister) and have very different senses of humour and approaches to life, so mum has to keep it very high level, but my sister just won't accept it. She wants my mum to be more embedded with them, but they are such different people, and my sister is prone to angry outbursts so mum has become very cautious about being too embedded as it makes her feel on edge at times, so it doesn't work if you get me.

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