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To expect parents to try to keep children quiet on campsites early in the morning?

209 replies

BobBobbity · 10/09/2023 10:38

Camping this weekend at an event - lots of families, tents tightly packed in.

Me and the DC were woken up this morning at 6:45am by a group of children (would say 6-9ish age range) shrieking and shouting non-stop. No let up for about an hour.

AIBU to think parents should have tried to keep their noise down so early? My DC aren’t larks and normally sleep through anything but were both woken up and are already grumpy and tired.

Obviously some children wake up early and can be a bit excitable in a group, but this was soft-play-birthday-party level cacophony before 7am.

OP posts:
CallumDansTransitVan · 11/09/2023 18:36

Delatron · 11/09/2023 18:24

Oh for goodness sake. Yes 6.45 is early. That is why I don’t go camping. Because you can’t guarantee which type of parents you’ll be in a field with.

It’s pretty optimistic to go camping and expect it to be quiet until 8am…
I don’t think this has ever happened on any campsite I’ve ever been on. Why expect it? Ridiculous.

I mean there’s noise on my street outside from 7am. Noisy work can start at 7.30am. But campsites are quiet until 8am. Living in a dreamworld…

I've probably spent more nights on campsites than most. It is taken as given to keep the noise to a minimum between 11pm and 8am on most sites. Some of the bigger sites even have security to ensure it.

A bit of consideration for everyone isn't unreasonable. From those having a weekend on the piss to families getting up at the crack of dawn.

Johnisafckface · 11/09/2023 18:51

Meh, i feel like at a campsite most anything goes. especially if kids or booze is involved. this wouldn't bother me but neither I nor anyone in my family sleep past 7 anyway.

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 11/09/2023 22:53

ClaudiaWankleman · 11/09/2023 18:00

Well it's not a school day, is it? It's a weekend camping trip to an event in a field where you often get get woken up by the sunrise, which is before 6:30am. Add on the fact that many children do get up ridiculously early (you'd be an idiot if you've missed the threads here with parents asking for advice about their 430am rising child) and take away any of the other irrelevant things you've conjured up and you're left with quite a different story.

You do know most people don't wake up EARLIER on holidays than they do on school/work day don't you? 😂

on which planet is 6.30 am not early? You might be an awfully light sleeper, but it's not normal to be up at that time.

The few kids who do get up at dawn are the exception, not the rule, most normal parents don't try to make them sleep at 6pm 😂

sleepwouldbenice · 11/09/2023 22:58

jgw1 · 10/09/2023 10:43

Why is it unacceptable for children to be up enjoying themselves and making noise in the morning when it is light, but acceptable for adults to make noise late into the night long after it is dark at campsites?

It's not
Campsites usually have guidelines for quiet times that cover late nights and early mornings

BogRollBOGOF · 12/09/2023 06:53

I hate the trend for "DIY festival" camping that's crept in in the past 15 years, but at night when it's dark and I'm tired, I've got some chance of sleep ahead of me. By 6am when it's light, it's game over on any chance of more sleep. It's not about who is making the excessive noise, it's the timing impact. Most campsites have an expectation of quiet between 10-11pm to 7am.

I've camped since having a 3 month old. There were some times in the toddler phase where we weren't confident in being able to camp with considerate levels of noise so used alternative accomodation like static caravans. My children aren't serene and placid, but they've also never been allowed to make excessive levels of noise freely, and especially not beyond the normal noise hours on a campsite.

The "well they made a lot of noise in the night, so we'll make a lot of noise in the morning" attitude just inflicts a double whammy of excessive noise onto the majority of reasonable campers. It also trains children not to consider their impact on others.

I wouldn't expect total peace on a campsite, but allowing children to make a full-blown racket at 6am is unreasonable and anti-social.

JST88 · 12/09/2023 09:03

Amen

Tillie12 · 12/09/2023 10:57

To an extent yes. But when we were camping a couple of weeks ago we had the opposite problem of not being able to get them to sleep at night with those staying up later, mine are young, early to bed early to rise. Obviously I tried to keep them quiet in the morning but don’t think anyone tried to keep quiet in the evening! Think you have to expect noise regardless when camping unfortunately.

Dramatic · 12/09/2023 11:01

jgw1 · 10/09/2023 10:43

Why is it unacceptable for children to be up enjoying themselves and making noise in the morning when it is light, but acceptable for adults to make noise late into the night long after it is dark at campsites?

I'd say both are unacceptable

ClaudiaWankleman · 12/09/2023 11:07

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 11/09/2023 22:53

You do know most people don't wake up EARLIER on holidays than they do on school/work day don't you? 😂

on which planet is 6.30 am not early? You might be an awfully light sleeper, but it's not normal to be up at that time.

The few kids who do get up at dawn are the exception, not the rule, most normal parents don't try to make them sleep at 6pm 😂

You've clearly never been camping and are writing from a place of complete ignorance.

It's really challenging to stay in bed after sunrise - not only is it completely light but the tent quickly gets very hot too - especially after the weekend we've just had.

It is completely normal to be up at 6:30 on a camping holiday.

PuttingDownRoots · 12/09/2023 11:11

Modern tents have blackout bedrooms!

This summer I was one of only two people up on the whole campsite at 7.30am... including children. The other person was off for an early paddleboard trip before breakfast.

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 11:15

ClaudiaWankleman · 12/09/2023 11:07

You've clearly never been camping and are writing from a place of complete ignorance.

It's really challenging to stay in bed after sunrise - not only is it completely light but the tent quickly gets very hot too - especially after the weekend we've just had.

It is completely normal to be up at 6:30 on a camping holiday.

The last time I went camping was last weekend, to be close to the beach, not far from Chichester. NO ONE was up at 6:30 😂(or if they were, they were quiet as anything) .

There is a thing called "shade" for a start, and because it WAS hot, and everybody else seemed pretty normal, no one seemed to have gone to bed at 6pm 😂.

I sincerely hope I will never bump into you on a campsite

ClaudiaWankleman · 12/09/2023 11:48

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 11:15

The last time I went camping was last weekend, to be close to the beach, not far from Chichester. NO ONE was up at 6:30 😂(or if they were, they were quiet as anything) .

There is a thing called "shade" for a start, and because it WAS hot, and everybody else seemed pretty normal, no one seemed to have gone to bed at 6pm 😂.

I sincerely hope I will never bump into you on a campsite

You won't - I am not a fan of near Chichester Bognor.

FFSWhatToDoNow · 12/09/2023 11:49

Have only ever camped twice. Never, ever again.

First time the children in the tent next to us started playing recorders at 5am. I hissed that if they didn’t stop I would shove them right up their arses. It soon stopped.

Second time the woman next door trilled loudly at “dearest Oscar” and “darling Tristan” to ask if they wanted croissants or waffles for breakfast and to “take care running over the guy ropes”. It was 6am and the entertainment had ended at 2am. I shouted that I assumed she was making that offer to everyone woken by it and she hurriedly ushered the kids back inside and kept things to a whisper.

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 12:05

ClaudiaWankleman · 12/09/2023 11:48

You won't - I am not a fan of near Chichester Bognor.

You sound like a camping martyr, too uncomfortable to sleep, plonking a tent in the full sun and complaining it's too hot. Is that why you think it's acceptable to bring your misery to others and wake them up at ridiculous hours? 😂

Wasn't Bognor, but that neck of the world to confirm that indeed, it was rather hot.

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 12:06

FFSWhatToDoNow

I like your style 😂😂😂

Plus you prove the point that when made to shut the hell up, any child or parent manage perfectly well.

FFSWhatToDoNow · 12/09/2023 12:19

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 12:06

FFSWhatToDoNow

I like your style 😂😂😂

Plus you prove the point that when made to shut the hell up, any child or parent manage perfectly well.

I am EVIL without sleep. And selfish people do my nut in.

ClaudiaWankleman · 12/09/2023 12:44

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 12:05

You sound like a camping martyr, too uncomfortable to sleep, plonking a tent in the full sun and complaining it's too hot. Is that why you think it's acceptable to bring your misery to others and wake them up at ridiculous hours? 😂

Wasn't Bognor, but that neck of the world to confirm that indeed, it was rather hot.

On the contrary, I love camping. An early morning doesn't bother me, and neither do other people's happy children, which is the point I've made throughout.

If I was so easily bothered by other people enjoying their holiday, I would choose one where the only thing separating me from others wasn't 2mm of nylon and a few metres at a busy, weekend, outdoor event.

But, then again, I am a sensible person.

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 13:02

ClaudiaWankleman · 12/09/2023 12:44

On the contrary, I love camping. An early morning doesn't bother me, and neither do other people's happy children, which is the point I've made throughout.

If I was so easily bothered by other people enjoying their holiday, I would choose one where the only thing separating me from others wasn't 2mm of nylon and a few metres at a busy, weekend, outdoor event.

But, then again, I am a sensible person.

anti-social people are just a disturbance in hotels or even as neighbours in holiday let, that's the problem. A shrieking child is a nuisance wherever you are, and will end up waking everybody around, whether you are in a tent or a bedroom.

FFSWhatToDoNow · 12/09/2023 13:04

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 13:02

anti-social people are just a disturbance in hotels or even as neighbours in holiday let, that's the problem. A shrieking child is a nuisance wherever you are, and will end up waking everybody around, whether you are in a tent or a bedroom.

There is, at least some sound deadening in a hotel room.

Georgeandzippyzoo · 12/09/2023 13:16

jgw1 · 10/09/2023 10:43

Why is it unacceptable for children to be up enjoying themselves and making noise in the morning when it is light, but acceptable for adults to make noise late into the night long after it is dark at campsites?

Came to say this!!

Ndhdiwntbsivnwg · 12/09/2023 14:43

Maybe go to adult only campsites

Heb1996 · 12/09/2023 15:23

@jgw1 exactly this!! Why are groups of adults always reminded about the No noise rule after 10pm but families with children allowed to do exactly as they please and annoy other campers? I know children wake early but surely you wouldn’t allow them to shout and shriek before 7am? Have some thought for other people!!!

Isthisasgoodasitis · 12/09/2023 16:11

God forbid the children were overwhelmed by the environment and not able to contain their autism adhd anxiety ect ect so your perfect angles could sleep!!!

FFSWhatToDoNow · 12/09/2023 16:31

Isthisasgoodasitis · 12/09/2023 16:11

God forbid the children were overwhelmed by the environment and not able to contain their autism adhd anxiety ect ect so your perfect angles could sleep!!!

Both me and DD have ADHD and never wake anyone up before noon (on holiday) unless something is on fire.

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 12/09/2023 16:38

Isthisasgoodasitis · 12/09/2023 16:11

God forbid the children were overwhelmed by the environment and not able to contain their autism adhd anxiety ect ect so your perfect angles could sleep!!!

what about other children with autism adhd anxiety etc? They have to suffer because of lazy parents?

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