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Does it pay to be kind??

13 replies

aniseedburn · 06/09/2023 21:09

So I was asked to host DH family. I’m working too hard at the moment between work and the household and the kids, nothing in particular just the usual but enough to keep me at the edge of overwhelmed. In the end I felt I just couldn’t put anything else on my plate so I said no and left lots of guilt feelings all around.

It wasn’t so much doing the hosting but the emotional feeling of why on earth should I make my life more difficult than necessary. I was on a rambling thought process of all the times I have given more than my equal share in time, resources, finances, hosted when I didn’t feel up to it, paid more than my fair share for things, worked harder at projects than my spouse / partner / co-worker, gone out of my way to be kind to people, inconvenienced myself to make life easier for someone else.

Was it all worth it? Does it pay to be nice – does it pay in the long-term physically? Does it pay in feel-good emotional resources? Is life long enough that what comes round goes round? Or is it each man to his own and you got to look out for yourself in this harsh and sometimes ugly world?

YANBU – life is tough and it’s a dog eats dog world. You got to look out for yourself and put your own interests first because nobody else is going to do it for you

YABU – the world is full of people with deficiencies and we must all be there for each other and look out for one another, it's the only way we can survive

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user76541055773 · 06/09/2023 21:12

Middle ground, surely. Yes, it pays to be nice because people reciprocate and it builds friendship and community, but it doesn’t pay to be a doormat.

Vegetus · 06/09/2023 21:14

It's nice to be nice but don't let people take the piss.

Hufflepods · 06/09/2023 21:25

life is tough and it’s a dog eats dog world. You got to look out for yourself and put your own interests first because nobody else is going to do it for you

If this is how you view your dynamic and relationship with your spouse, of all people, then why even bother?

Lammveg · 06/09/2023 21:26

I'm still trying to find a middle ground. I am too nice/polite and people take the piss. I know that I need to grow a backbone but with every new person I'm like 'maybe it will be different' (it's never is).

Nevermind31 · 06/09/2023 21:26

Yes, but don’t be a doormat.
be kind, and if someone is CF then stop it

bossybloss · 06/09/2023 21:30

I think as others have said, there needs to be a middle ground. When I first married I was very kind to my in laws, invited them over for meals, Easter, Christmas, birthdays etc. Over the years various things have happened and I feel I have been taken for a mug … so now visiting is on my terms and I have not entertained them for over a year!

Eddielizzard · 06/09/2023 21:35

I think you learn who to be kind to. Bending backwards to accommodate IL's who give nothing back make you resentful so it's better not to IMO. I'd match the level of energy they bring.

Otherwise, of course I'd make a big effort for a good friend. CF's can get lost

electriclight · 06/09/2023 21:35

I'm nice. But being nice doesn't mean being a doormat. You can protect yourself, be assertive and still be nice.

SerafinasGoose · 06/09/2023 21:36

Inconveniencing yourself to make life easier for others isn't being kind. It's people pleasing. Or, in more extreme cases, setting yourself on fire to keep others warm. It's interesting how much more often people are willing to cajole others to Be Kind (implicitly meaning be kind to me), than they are to extend that kindness to others, usually trotting out platitudes like that puke-inducing phrase 'it's nice to be nice'.

It's impossible to please others all the time. You can also guarantee that those in the habit of taking liberties won't notice the 99 times you capitulate, perhaps to make them happy, perhaps to make an easier life for yourself, perhaps both.

They'll notice the one time you don't.

Where is your DH amid this request for you to host his family? Why isn't he hosting them?

I'm a reformed people pleaser, without having fully realised I was one in the first place. This doesn't mean I won't ever put myself out to help others, albeit the extent of this depends who they are. The power of 'no' is liberating. Oddly enough, I find I'm respected more.

MariaVT65 · 06/09/2023 21:38

YANBU. I found this especially in/since lockdown.

thecatinthetwat · 06/09/2023 21:39

If in-laws are visiting, it’s up to DH to organise food, clean up before visit etc. if I’ve got time I’ll help but it’s his responsibility. Sometimes I’m ‘out’ that day/evening and don’t do any hosting at all. Sometimes I’m happy to cook etc and I do, but it isn’t expected.

Cupofteafortwo · 06/09/2023 21:57

Vegetus · 06/09/2023 21:14

It's nice to be nice but don't let people take the piss.

This ^

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