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To apply for an external job that’s just a secondment?

13 replies

lookingforanexcuse · 04/09/2023 20:08

I really hate my job, it gives me anxiety attacks most days, the pay is bad, there was no training. My issue is I want to stay in the profession.

I’ve seen a job advertised that I would love in a global business that’s a high street store. But it’s an 18 month secondment.

I don’t financially support anyone but obviously I do have outgoings … is this a crazy move?

OP posts:
knowyournumbers · 04/09/2023 20:25

If it's a secondment where's the risk? I'd check with your current employer they'd allow it and all being well get applying!

lookingforanexcuse · 04/09/2023 20:30

knowyournumbers · 04/09/2023 20:25

If it's a secondment where's the risk? I'd check with your current employer they'd allow it and all being well get applying!

I put in the title it’s an external job, so if I got it I’d be leaving the company I currently work for.

OP posts:
knowyournumbers · 04/09/2023 20:32

So it's not a secondment, just giving up a permanent job for a fixed term? That I wouldn't do sorry!

Bookish88 · 04/09/2023 20:35

It's not a secondment, you can't be seconded when you don't work for the company already in another role. It's a fixed term contract.

lookingforanexcuse · 04/09/2023 21:00

Bookish88 · 04/09/2023 20:35

It's not a secondment, you can't be seconded when you don't work for the company already in another role. It's a fixed term contract.

It’s listed as a secondment on their external job advert.

OP posts:
knowyournumbers · 04/09/2023 21:10

If it was a secondment it's would be a temporary transfer and you'd go back to your old post afterwards. What you're describing is a fixed term contract.

Scaryghost · 04/09/2023 21:12

I think you are confused over secondment

Howdoesitworkagain · 04/09/2023 21:13

Yeah that’s not a secondment.

It depends how much you’ve got in savings, how in-demand your skills are, how employable you are etc as to whether it’s worth giving up a permanent job for a fixed term/temporary one.

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 21:23

lookingforanexcuse · 04/09/2023 21:00

It’s listed as a secondment on their external job advert.

Then the company have misused the word or more likely had advertised internally and not bothered to change the wording
(Secondment is an internal move in an organisation to a new role for a fixed lenght of time/project and then being able to return to your original role.)

If it is a fixed term contract and you think that you will advance your long term goals what are you loosing out on?

You dont like your current role
So much so that yor are having a mental /physical reaction
It offers no progression and is badly paid

So if the new job offers progression and equal pay you need to work out if you can get a job (any job) which will pay the same wages when the contract ends.
And if you can get a better role with the additional experience from the new job

Cnidarian · 04/09/2023 21:28

A secondment means you go back to your old job afterwards. Your current job would have to be happy with you going and may have conditions. Usually secondments are with organisations that your current role has some sort of relationship to/with, where swapping stuff around enables knowledge sharing that benefits both organisations. I think you just need to ask them for some clarity.

Cnidarian · 04/09/2023 21:29

But yes if it is a fixed term contract it sounds like a good move for you

Haretest · 04/09/2023 21:34

Secondment is an internal move in an organisation to a new role for a fixed lenght of time/project and then being able to return to your original role.

Plenty of secondment happen between organisations. It's not an internal thing.

But I agree it wouldn't be in a external job advert as your 'home' company would need to be on board

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 22:26

Haretest · 04/09/2023 21:34

Secondment is an internal move in an organisation to a new role for a fixed lenght of time/project and then being able to return to your original role.

Plenty of secondment happen between organisations. It's not an internal thing.

But I agree it wouldn't be in a external job advert as your 'home' company would need to be on board

It normal to only happen with linked organisations as the lending organisation has to backfill the role normally at a higher salary cost and loose productive time of both the team member and recruitment / training time needed to onboard "the temp".
And as its a try before you buy option the additional risk is that the other organisation will offer a full time role so the lending company dont gain at all.

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