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To no longer help BIL when it’s actually DH who will suffer

7 replies

PawPatrolPal · 04/09/2023 08:48

Relatively long back story - not sure how much is relevant but including all just in case! I’m really really not one to keep £££’s track on relationships - but in this case it sort of an important part of the story (in my mind anyway). I’m not losing sleep over this - just mildly annoyed.

So DH & BIL have a very significant age difference and BIL still lives in their home country. When I met DH, BIL was a child. For various complicated cultural and family reasons, we fully financially supported BIL (and his siblings & DH’s parents) whilst BIL was growing up. This includes building the house he now lives in, and buying the car he now drives. We also paid for his wedding, and set up his business. We initially financed the business but he now operates it himself and is financially very very well off in terms of his own country (and even in UK terms).

The complication is that the business BIL operates can only work if DH performs a certain task in the UK. He spends about 3-4 hrs a week on it (on top of his day job) for which he does not take any payment at all. BIL probably does a similar amount of work and takes all the very significant profit. DH is totally ok with this and would never take profit from his family. He doesn’t mind doing the tasks. Occasionally, DH doesn’t have time to do his bit, and I do it for him (maybe 10-15 mins a day x 6 per month). If I don’t do it, BIL wouldn’t actually lose out as DH would do a few days later. Previously, the work was quite intrusive in our lives, but now not so much.

So fast forward to holidays. When we go to their home country, we stay with them (in the house we build, but they live in). It’s an expensive business hosting their large family, so we usually do a big shop and take people out for a meal 1 night. Other siblings maybe get everyone a takeaway one night - so the costs are somewhat shared. Over all the years, BIL has never taken us out for a meal or even a cup of coffee / ice cream or as far as I’m aware expressed any gratitude for what we have done / do.

This year we only stayed for a long weekend at “their” house (we paid for a takeaway 1 night, we were out 1 night at a ‘do’ without them, and they made dinner 2 nights. We didn’t contribute any shopping). We then all went on hols for a few days together.

The first day, we went for lunch - 5 of us at one table (incl DH, BIL, me & 2 kids). There was another table of about 8 from our family also in the restaurant (others were still at the beach). After we’d eaten, BIL wanted to leave and so dropped £20 on the table for his food + the 2 kids (but specifically not to cover our food). DH said ‘don’t be ridiculous’ (ambiguous as to what exactly he meant) and BIL picked up his £20, agreed timings for the rest of the day and left. DH paid for our table, and the other family table before we left.

During the rest of the hols, DH & other siblings took turns to pay the bills or sharing the bill between a couple of them. It’s not in their culture for everyone to contribute their share. BIL didn’t put his hand in his pocket once.

To be honest it left me with a pretty bad taste, and really not feeling like helping out with his business at all when he seems roughly 0% grateful. I wasn’t in any way expecting him to fund us - but at least cover similar to everyone else (or even get us a coffee or ice cream or something). DH was annoyed about the lunch situation too, and mentioned to siblings but definitely hasn’t changed his commitment to the business.

so…

IABU - don’t be so petty - the sums of money are small in the grand scheme, and in any case, they fed us 2 nights when staying with them. Just do your bit in the business (for DH’s sake) and don’t keep track.

IANBU - The actual money isn’t the point: BIL obviously doesn’t appreciate the help, so don’t give it. Let DH do what he wants but don’t put yourself out (even the tiny bit that you currently do).

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 04/09/2023 08:51

I’m yearning to know what the business is that needs your DH to do a significant amount of work here to enable it.

burnoutbabe · 04/09/2023 08:57

I would find sone reason why husband can't do the extra uk work and brother needs to pay a person here to do it properly.

As a brother/male surely he should pay his share of meals out as he is now married/grown up. Your husband has supported him and it's time to return the favour or take over for next generation

Changes17 · 04/09/2023 09:00

It sounds like your BIL is massively dependant on your DH and you, which can’t be good for him now he’s an adult. I’d talk about moving away from that gradually - but not as a big shock.

After all, if something happened to your DH that would just happen with no warning. Maybe he needs to work towards employing someone in the UK to do the job.

PawPatrolPal · 04/09/2023 09:11

Totally agree BIL needs to diversify or find another way but this has been discussed many time and he won’t.

So DH is left either continuing or leaving him up a creek (which he would never do). So on it goes.

If anything were to happen to DH, BIL would be screwed, but that’s his look out.

The only think I can do it out my foot down on the effect on our family (hence it being significantly less intrusive than it was).

… and of course potentially withdrawing my tiny bit of labour!

The activity isn’t very interesting but just even more outing than the story already is!

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Kitkatcatflap · 04/09/2023 09:13

It sounds like your BIL sees your DH as a parental type figure and in a way he has been ....providing a house, business, wedding etc. I think your DH needs to cut the apron strings but does he want to? I do agree with the above poster - what if something happened to your DH? Perhaps you could suggest making his brother more independent would be beneficial for him in the future.

Also is your DH doesn't have time to assist BIL's business can you suggest a few for doing it?

BiddyPop · 04/09/2023 09:44

YANBU

BIL absolutely needs to start covering his costs for shared events.

If his company is doing so well, he should be paying the input costs of everyone involved, including your DH.

But the problem for you is getting your DH to see that BIL is no longer a child who needs support but now a freeloading adult who is taking advantage of DH and profiting quite nicely from DHs efforts and support without acknowledging that.

And that it is now DH's family and DCs who are losing out as a result with BIL not even treating his DNs to an ice cream when he has been so well supported since he was a DC himself.

Trenchfootinthescottishhighlandstoday · 04/09/2023 09:52

Cultural my eye. Bil is a cheeky fucker who needs a reality check. And a proper fucking job...

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