Oat milk?

[ZombieBoob]

Ds is 7 months and has cow milk allergy. Hes BF. He loves his food which is great but I'm running out of ideas as everything so far has been fairy free.

I've been doing porridge with water and fruit as I cannot for the life of me express enough but I'm worried its basically no calories like you would with milk.

Google says no milk alternative until they are one but surely just breakfast would be OK? He still bf loads and he has a bit of everything food wise.

Wibu to do oatmilk anyways?

Hope you get seen soon. We were in the same position with multiple allergies and many trips to A&E, it was a difficult and nervous wait.

A cow that is pumped full of antibiotics, growth hormones and so on. And that's fit to give to a human baby, yeah?!

Growth hormones aren't used in the UK.

Thanks @SeptemberSongs it's rubbish isn't it. Dairy, soy and egg free is very hard! Although fingers crossed we do seem to be making progress on the milk ladder (non-IgE!)

Milk free diet for children with a milk allergy https://www.royalberkshire.nhs.uk/media/ggdbwbez/milk-free-diet-for-children-with-milk-allergyjun21.pdf

OP, please have a look at this link. This was the information leaflet provided by the NHS dietician we saw for DD. Everything they said in our appointment is in there

Page 5 talks about milk alternatives for different ages of babies/toddlers. I'd recommend the Koko coconut milk. It tastes most milk like (not very coconuty) and is fortified

Page 8 to 11 has advise about the brand names of products that are alternatives to milk, cheese, butter and swaps for anything that contains milk powder etc

Page 12 to 14 talks about how much calcium different ages need and the foods to eat more of to get everything you need.

I'm assuming that because you're BF, you need to stop eating diary too. So the advice about calcium applies to you as well. You need to protect your bones and teeth as much as you DC needs calcium to grow (sorry but as a woman, menopause will be along in time with the associated increase risk of osteoporosis)

My DD grew out of it in a year to 18 months. The advise was to cut everything out for 6 weeks. Then slowly reintroduce. Least allergenic first (the more processed, the least allergenic). She was able to eat processed food (like biscuits) containing milk powder, then later cheese and butter when it was cooked (eg homemade cheese sauce), then cooked milk (eg homemade rice pudding), then uncooked cheese, butter. Then milk.

I make DD’s oat milk with light olive oil so it’s still got a decent amount of fat in it but doesn’t have an olive oil taste. Coconut oil works too but it sets in the fridge so you need to whizz it with a hand blender first if not heating it up. Takes 5 mins every couple of days.

Then add in baby vitamin/iron/calcium drops.

For those claiming that oat milk is a UPF and cow's milk isn't, what is your stance on the homogenisation and pasteurisation process that milk goes through nowadays? If you've ever tried raw cow's milk you'll know it's radically different.

Just a quick browse of the back of the packs will tell you that some oat milks are packed with gums and thickeners....and some aren't. The Lidl bog standard one is quite good.

We used to make porridge and Weetabix up with Oatly Cream for my DS who was allergic to cows milk. He loved it.

Also, the advice on Google you read and in the link I sent are written assuming that the baby is currently formula fed with cows milk based formula.

Since you are BF, that's his main milk drink. You're not intending to replace that with a milk substitute like oat milk or coconut milk.

You're looking to replace cows milk which is used in his food. It's fine to replace cows milk with a plant based milk when you're just talking about using it in food. Just keep going with the breast feeding, that's still his major source of nutrition until he's 1.

For those claiming that oat milk is a UPF and cow's milk isn't, what is your stance on the homogenisation and pasteurisation process that milk goes through nowadays

While that does remove some beneficial bacteria (but also potentially pathogenic ones), it's just a heating and separation process, it isn't actually putting any additives in the milk so it doesn't make it a processed food item.

But surely it's at least partially the processing process that makes something a processed food? Since trying raw cow's milk I can't abide the standard stuff- it has a really claggy mouth feel.

And many oat milks just contain oats, water and a bit of oil (and often added vitamins and minerals). You can make it yourself, it's just a bit of a faff.

For those claiming that oat milk is a UPF and cow's milk isn't, what is your stance on the homogenisation and pasteurisation process that milk goes through nowadays
'Mixing different batches of the same product' and 'heating' are not examples of creating a UPF.

I picked up some milk today asda own brand I looked at the ingredients and it's got Calcium, Vit d, iodine and b12 I think it said. Thank you for the link it's extremely useful. Will also pick up a multi vitamin.

I fed all my other kids until they was 2 and planning on doing the same with this one unless he self weans which I think he might as he's already starting to prefer food over boob.

TheInebriati homogenisation is not "mixing different batches of the same product". It's a process to disperse the fat evenly throughout the milk, rather than the floating layer on top it used to have. I don't know how they do it, actually (wanders off to Google).

Read the label and please do not use it if it contains canola oil, which it will because they all do. Do not make your baby drink seed oils. They are poison for everyone, including adults. Oat milk is generally crap.

I think its the glycemic index side of oat milk that makes it generally not a great choice.

At that age, take huge advantage of the fact that they will generally eat anything you present them on a spoon for breakfast. Widen your ideas of suitable breakfast foods would be my suggestion. I used to open up a can of sardines and give that my DD when she was that age - she absolutely gobbled it up, it was cheap, high calorie and very nutritious. Breakfast was the time of day that she was the hungriest, so I'd try and take advantage of that. I'd give her leftover meat, batch-cooked little pots of shepherds pie heated up, pieces of fish, stewed fruit, veg, all sorts. Don't get too hung up on having to give them "breakfast food" at breakfast.

@Malapataraso What makes seed oils poisonous?