Oat milk?

[ZombieBoob]

Ds is 7 months and has cow milk allergy. Hes BF. He loves his food which is great but I'm running out of ideas as everything so far has been fairy free.

I've been doing porridge with water and fruit as I cannot for the life of me express enough but I'm worried its basically no calories like you would with milk.

Google says no milk alternative until they are one but surely just breakfast would be OK? He still bf loads and he has a bit of everything food wise.

Wibu to do oatmilk anyways?

My dd was allergic to cows milk and soya. The paediatrician recommended Oatley barista.

what’s all the vague “ultra processed” referring to when people post about oat milk here ? heating it up ? mixing it ? what exactly ?

But then it has no calcium, vitamin D or iodine so it’s not adding anything additional than porridge made with water.

Based on reading the ingredients. It's a upf, exactly the kind of food we should be minimising. If people like it and want to drink it, that's fine but it should be considered a junk food treat, just like any other junk food treat. It's not healthy.

It's the rapeseed oil. Oat milk has high levels of rapeseed in it and rapeseed oil is ultra processed.

Our dietician recommended Oatly Barista for DS3 in food from 6 months

Well yes, but that's not what you said?

The paediatrician and dietician both recommended oatly barista when my dd had cmpa. Along with alternatives. They don't usually recommend nut milks for babies and toddlers with cmpa.

Op I think you need to seek advice from an expert source rather than aibu. AllergyUK is online and have advice available, but also speak to your gp dietician.

it's fine.
I would look at maybe adding a little amount of omega3 rich oil for the nutritional benefit.

tbh I think many of the upf pearl clutchers will look back on this with an eye roll in a decade.

Thank you, but why is rapeseed oil ultra processed ? Is it not basically pressed out of seeds and then filtered ?

@hylian so cows milk is OK then?! Something a cow produces specifically for its young. A cow that is pumped full of antibiotics, growth hormones and so on. And that's fit to give to a human baby, yeah?! 👍👍👍

don't know why I bothered going to a dietician I should have just read the ingredients.

It's recommended by dieticians for babies with cmpa.

Dieticians recommend oatly barista precisely because it has rapeseed oil and babies need fats and the fortified calcium. It's all very well saying it's UPF but so is baby formula and cmpa babies need calcium from artificial sources. Yes in an ideal world your baby (post bf) would eat a ton of green beans and 6 oranges a day to get their calcium but it's unlikely, so fortified (UPF) milks are a good way of getting those fats and calcium in.

I would avoid nut milks purely because they won't allow them in childcare settings. So oatly or unsweetened pea milk (that has good protein and more calcium than cows milk) are good options.

Op I think you need to seek advice from an expert source rather than aibu.

Agreed. MN is never the place to come for accurate information regarding food and nutrition.

Please only use Plenish or similar. It is expensive compared to others but if you read the ingredients, it’s just oat, water and a little sea salt. Others are full of thickeners like guns you’ve never heard of and E numbers.

You're the one who mentioned the fortification aspect. The vitamins and calcium in those forms are often difficult to absorb in the body, and not necessary because they can be found in real foods that aren't dairy. Except for vitamin D, but the D2 in most vegan drinks is basically pointless and people need to consume vitamin D3 supplements for that purpose. The added calcium and vitamins aren't actively damaging or anything, but they aren't particularly useful.

Water, OATS 10%, rapeseed oil, acidity regulator (dipotassium phosphate), minerals (calcium carbonate, potassium iodide), salt, vitamins (D2, riboflavin, B12).

Not seeing any thickener gums or E numbers in this Oatley

Its absolutely fine to make your child's porridge with oat milk when they are still breast fed. They will get the calcium they need from you.

OP I have a daughter with CMPA. You really need to speak with a paediatric allergist and dietician. There is some well meaning but incorrect advice on here, not least confusion between lactose intolerance and milk protein allergy.

Good luck! Hopefully your little one grows out of it soon!

The peanut butter might be an idea. I was looking at fortified milk alternatives ones. He loves avocado and salmon atm pretty much eat anything you put on front of him. He's a big lad. At the 90th for height.

We are vegan and my son has been having oat milk in meals since 6 months, he is now 20 months. I dont see any problem with this, especially as the milk is fortified with calcium and vitamins. He also still breastfeeds

You do know that organic milk exists right? That doesn't have antibiotics, growth hormones, etc in it neither added to the cow or the milk.

@ZombieBoob my oldest was getting funny rashes with cows milk as well as some sort of eczema so we have been on organic A2 (100% gurnsey) for a while . It’s missing a specific casein but also the cows protein it has doesn’t cause issues for us

I do make sure it’s boiled before I give it (consultant had told me allergens not as strong when you boil)

just a thought

good luck x

I went through this with DD, I preferred coconut milk to oat milk as a substitute health wise. But in the end I decided it was better to avoid meals which needed milk than try to find a replacement.

So stopped offering porridge or cereal for breakfast and offered a muffin/toast/ect with fruit.

You can make some fab muffins, put anything in them and freeze in batches, then pop in the microwave to defrost. DDs fav was cheese and broccoli (after a while she could cope with cooked cheese and butter, and now can have it uncooked and drink milk)

Edited to add that we used to buy calcium fortified orange juice for her too, and offered more calcium rich foods... Eg adding frozen spinach to spag bol, dried apricots as a snack, tinned mackerel on toast for dinner

Have you needed to stop having dairy yourself if you're BF?

With me being back at work I'm worried he's not getting the calories as he's started waking at night again when he never used to.

It's fine to give him oat milk but it's not really something that fills them up like cows milk does.

People with CMPA (vs lactose intolerance) often cant have any soy as the protein codes are similar, my DS reacts the same to soy as to dairy.

My dietician recommend sardines/pilchards as a good source of calcium, the ones that come in tomato sauce are quite nice