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Tories voting to pour MORE shit into rivers

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DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 08:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66642878.amp

You'd have to be a really special kind of idiot to vote for them after this (they're literally shitting in your nest) or a housing developer.

Perfectly reasonable stance?

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GettingStuffed · 01/09/2023 08:30

It's disgusting, our planet is already suffering from what we're doing to it and they want to cause more destruction. Unbelievable.

Eleganz · 01/09/2023 08:35

They know they are out and they are trying to do as much to help their donors as they can get away with.

The RSPB even had a pop at their obvious duplicitousness, well until the Tory Tufton Street plant on their board of trustees threw his toys out of the pram.

I recall being called a "project fear"-monger for saying that environmental standards would be degraded following Brexit by many brexiteers. Fucking idiots.

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 08:40

Eleganz · 01/09/2023 08:35

They know they are out and they are trying to do as much to help their donors as they can get away with.

The RSPB even had a pop at their obvious duplicitousness, well until the Tory Tufton Street plant on their board of trustees threw his toys out of the pram.

I recall being called a "project fear"-monger for saying that environmental standards would be degraded following Brexit by many brexiteers. Fucking idiots.

Me too!

This is EXACTLY what the Brexiteers were planning

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smilesup · 01/09/2023 08:56

Anyone that votes for the Tories at the moment must have something a bit wrong with them.
I could understand it in the past a bit but now they are so blatantly corrupt there is no hiding.
They had 13 years in power and destroyed our country. Even the bits I agree with like the single sex space legislation they have failed to actually sort out in all this time and now are just using it as populist bait.

Isitsixoclockalready · 01/09/2023 08:59

Their exit from number 10 cannot come soon enough. This is all dragging out slowly and painfully.

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2023 09:01

When I saw the thread title I thought it was about getting rid of the 2019 manifesto.

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 09:07

smilesup · 01/09/2023 08:56

Anyone that votes for the Tories at the moment must have something a bit wrong with them.
I could understand it in the past a bit but now they are so blatantly corrupt there is no hiding.
They had 13 years in power and destroyed our country. Even the bits I agree with like the single sex space legislation they have failed to actually sort out in all this time and now are just using it as populist bait.

They still poll around 30%.

It's incredible

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witheringrowan · 01/09/2023 09:15

The entirety of the built environment (so not just new build, everything that exists now) contributes less than 5% of all river pollution.

The old nutrient neutrality rules were stopping all development unless the developer could pay into an offsetting scheme, working with a farmer or sewage treatment provider to reduce their pollution. The biggest polluter is agriculture. So the developers are paying about an extra £6-8k per home they build to provide a farmer with a solution to stop phosphate and nitrate run off from their fields - basically new housing had to foot the bill of sorting out pollution that comes from other industries, and that cost then gets passed on to whoever buys the new house. Completely blunt regulation that didn't target the main causes of the problem. All it has done is make it very hard to build certain areas, many of which have a high level of housing need - the Solent and Kent particularly, and make the new homes which were built more expensive.

What Government should have been doing, and are starting to do now with the new £280m fund, is more firmly regulating farming activity, and requiring water companies to upgrade waste water treatment infrastructure before giving massive annual payouts to shareholders.

You'll see that the RSPB have had to apologise for their original statement on this announcement.

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2023 09:20

They still poll around 30%.

Which pretty much matches the number of people who don't vote. I can't say never vote because it might be a different 30% each time. Although in 2017 I was fascinated to see a 82 year old gentleman who was very unsure of what to do as they explained to the clerk "this is my first time". I do sonder what it was about 2017 that was different to the preceding 15 or so previous elections they had missed. But one feels it's bad form to talk in polling stations. Except to the clerks. When it's mandatory to thank them for volunteering.

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 09:20

witheringrowan · 01/09/2023 09:15

The entirety of the built environment (so not just new build, everything that exists now) contributes less than 5% of all river pollution.

The old nutrient neutrality rules were stopping all development unless the developer could pay into an offsetting scheme, working with a farmer or sewage treatment provider to reduce their pollution. The biggest polluter is agriculture. So the developers are paying about an extra £6-8k per home they build to provide a farmer with a solution to stop phosphate and nitrate run off from their fields - basically new housing had to foot the bill of sorting out pollution that comes from other industries, and that cost then gets passed on to whoever buys the new house. Completely blunt regulation that didn't target the main causes of the problem. All it has done is make it very hard to build certain areas, many of which have a high level of housing need - the Solent and Kent particularly, and make the new homes which were built more expensive.

What Government should have been doing, and are starting to do now with the new £280m fund, is more firmly regulating farming activity, and requiring water companies to upgrade waste water treatment infrastructure before giving massive annual payouts to shareholders.

You'll see that the RSPB have had to apologise for their original statement on this announcement.

Only because it technically breached the charities act- not on the basis that what they said wasn't true.

It was true and is still up, if it was libel it would be taken down.

I spent ten years in the building trade and don't believe a word of your post- having cleaned that pollution out of my bra at the end of a working day.

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KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 09:20

They still poll around 30%.

It's incredible

But who else is there to vote for? I'm not going to Labour because who knows what they stand for these days (other than TW's rights)?

Maddy70 · 01/09/2023 09:21

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 08:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66642878.amp

You'd have to be a really special kind of idiot to vote for them after this (they're literally shitting in your nest) or a housing developer.

Perfectly reasonable stance?

I can't believe anyone could vote for them for other reasons alone but seriously this is moronic !

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2023 09:26

Maddy70 · 01/09/2023 09:21

I can't believe anyone could vote for them for other reasons alone but seriously this is moronic !

When you have met a fucktonne of people in your life - and continue doing so - it can only ever depress your reckoning of average intelligence.

How else can you explain a US elected official declaiming "big globe" to an electorate who lap it up ?

Once you know people like this are real, it can affect your take on humanity. For reasons that are obvious.

ELECTED Republican Complains About "The Big Globe Conspiracy" on Flat-Earther's Podcast

Kandiss Taylor, now an elected GOP District Chair in Georgia, held an interview with David Weiss (AKA “Flat Earth Dave”) and Matt Long on her “Jesus, Guns, a...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj9zEE42cYY

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 09:28

KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 09:20

They still poll around 30%.

It's incredible

But who else is there to vote for? I'm not going to Labour because who knows what they stand for these days (other than TW's rights)?

Google is your friend

labour.org.uk/missions/

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DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 09:30

Just waiting for RSPB to be branded woke, lefty, activist, Anti-British, part of the great re-set and probably the cause of ULEZ

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KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 10:03

Google is your friend

Jeez! I'd never thought of googling! Thanks for the tip.
😎
Point remains - I'm not overly impressed with the current Tory leadership, but who would you vote for if not them? Not the Labour shit show certainly.
I can't bring myself to not vote
I can't bring myself to spoil my paper
I can't bring myself to vote Labour
I cant bring myself to vote Green/Lib/UKIP
But I don't really want to condone some of the recent Tory decisions by voting for them either.
They just seem to be the least bad option still - their stance on women's spaces/sport/prisons/self
ID etc is the deciding factor for me as it's not about the economy.

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 10:37

KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 10:03

Google is your friend

Jeez! I'd never thought of googling! Thanks for the tip.
😎
Point remains - I'm not overly impressed with the current Tory leadership, but who would you vote for if not them? Not the Labour shit show certainly.
I can't bring myself to not vote
I can't bring myself to spoil my paper
I can't bring myself to vote Labour
I cant bring myself to vote Green/Lib/UKIP
But I don't really want to condone some of the recent Tory decisions by voting for them either.
They just seem to be the least bad option still - their stance on women's spaces/sport/prisons/self
ID etc is the deciding factor for me as it's not about the economy.

That is exactly what they're banking on

Your voting stance is a direct result of calculations done by the Tory party

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TheThinkingGoblin · 01/09/2023 13:53

KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 10:03

Google is your friend

Jeez! I'd never thought of googling! Thanks for the tip.
😎
Point remains - I'm not overly impressed with the current Tory leadership, but who would you vote for if not them? Not the Labour shit show certainly.
I can't bring myself to not vote
I can't bring myself to spoil my paper
I can't bring myself to vote Labour
I cant bring myself to vote Green/Lib/UKIP
But I don't really want to condone some of the recent Tory decisions by voting for them either.
They just seem to be the least bad option still - their stance on women's spaces/sport/prisons/self
ID etc is the deciding factor for me as it's not about the economy.

The only people that vote Conservative now are the ones that are disconnected from the real economy.

This is a problem that is quite unique to the UK

You simply don't care that the country gets poorer, or that poverty is increasing, or a lot of infrastructure is failing, because it doesn't really affect you.

Hence your focus on trivial culture issues.

Lack of critical thinking skills leads to these sorts of sub-optimal outcomes. Its really the achilles heel of democracy.

HermioneWeasley · 01/09/2023 13:55

It’s like they want to be voted out

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/09/2023 13:59

Labour have dropped Self ID.
Tories have dropped any attempt to sort their trans shitshow out. There will be no guidance issued to our schools.

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 14:41

HermioneWeasley · 01/09/2023 13:55

It’s like they want to be voted out

I don't know, there are people on this thread who are willing to vote for them.

Poisoning our actual water doesn't matter to them half so much as a willy in the next toilet cubicle. Baffling.

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Scattery · 01/09/2023 14:56

KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 10:03

Google is your friend

Jeez! I'd never thought of googling! Thanks for the tip.
😎
Point remains - I'm not overly impressed with the current Tory leadership, but who would you vote for if not them? Not the Labour shit show certainly.
I can't bring myself to not vote
I can't bring myself to spoil my paper
I can't bring myself to vote Labour
I cant bring myself to vote Green/Lib/UKIP
But I don't really want to condone some of the recent Tory decisions by voting for them either.
They just seem to be the least bad option still - their stance on women's spaces/sport/prisons/self
ID etc is the deciding factor for me as it's not about the economy.

Maybe you should bring yourself to jump into the nearest shit-filled body of water and then see how much you care about some rando having a penis or a vagina, if you manage not to die of some antibiotic-resistant bacteria first.

DatumTarum · 01/09/2023 15:56

@Scattery

As long as it's single sex shit, she won't mind

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traytablestowed · 01/09/2023 16:10

KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2023 10:03

Google is your friend

Jeez! I'd never thought of googling! Thanks for the tip.
😎
Point remains - I'm not overly impressed with the current Tory leadership, but who would you vote for if not them? Not the Labour shit show certainly.
I can't bring myself to not vote
I can't bring myself to spoil my paper
I can't bring myself to vote Labour
I cant bring myself to vote Green/Lib/UKIP
But I don't really want to condone some of the recent Tory decisions by voting for them either.
They just seem to be the least bad option still - their stance on women's spaces/sport/prisons/self
ID etc is the deciding factor for me as it's not about the economy.

Well you certainly won't have to worry about this if the tories get in again!
There won't be any women's spaces to protect because nobody will be able to afford to go out
There won't be any women's sport to police because running tracks will be flooded with raw sewage and all the concrete-built swimming pools will have collapsed
Prisoners will be released because the guards will be on strike permanently over shit pay

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