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To be worried about buying a semi attached to a council owned house?

338 replies

mumyes · 30/08/2023 14:48

I'm about to spend nearly £500k on a semi that is attached to a 4-bed house owned by a housing-association...the one I'm buying used to be a council house.

I'm nervous. The little estate it's on is still partly (maybe 50/50) 'council' owned.

Should I be worried?

The house I'm buying is lovely, and well kept. Next door less so...but not as bad as some.

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AnneValentine · 30/08/2023 19:52

Krickley · 30/08/2023 19:36

£500k to live in an ex council house on a 50:50 council owned street. Its not even detached. This is utter madness!!!

my last house was on a road like this, absolute shit hole. Council tenants dont care the state of their houses/front gardens. Fridge freezers/mattresses left out. Surely for £500k you should be looking at a nice area fgs

That’s hilarious. You couldn’t buy a 2 bed where I live.

Meatus · 30/08/2023 19:54

Ohyesreally · 30/08/2023 19:01

If you look at the facts, you'd see that the incidence of anti-social behaviour is higher in these properties. It's not about being near poorer people! Ridiculous!

Oh fantastic, someone is finally talking facts!

@Ohyesreally , can you please post a link to the data you’re preferring to? Data relating to antisocial behaviour broken down by accommodation type (owned home vs prince rented be HA).

It sounds really interesting and you’ve obviously done a lot of research so will have links to the “facts” to hand.

Krickley · 30/08/2023 20:00

AnneValentine · 30/08/2023 19:52

That’s hilarious. You couldn’t buy a 2 bed where I live.

Well thats crazy if a two bed is more than half a mill 🤦🏻‍♀️

upsidedownandturnaround · 30/08/2023 20:06

This is very common in London and the SE, even in the 'rougher' parts of London

DinoDaddy · 30/08/2023 20:16

Thehonestybox · 30/08/2023 15:21

Sure. Someone who can afford a £500k house has almost certainly grown up middle class (unless lottery winner, or just got very lucky).

Someone in a 4 bed council house is very likely from a very poor background and possibly doesn't work (because council housing lists are so competitive now, you usually have to prove you'd be homeless otherwise and can't afford private rent).

They're just potentially two totally different households and no one likes the idea of their rich new neighbour moving in and then starting to complain about parties, noise, fence not being repaired, etc.

I think if the OP is a working class person "made good" they'll more likely fit in, otherwise I'd pass personally

What actual nonsense. I grew up on a council estate and my house is worth more than £500k now. Didn't need a lottery win or to be "very lucky" either. The middle class are such patronising cunts.

frazzledasarock · 30/08/2023 20:21

i used it live in an ex-council house attached to a council owned property. There was an elderly man who lived in it on his own. The house on the other side was housing association and we had several neighbours living there.

no problems with anyone we largely kept to ourselves and were on friendly nodding hello terms with everyone. And helped out when needed.

Snugglemonkey · 30/08/2023 20:33

I would not. It is the semi detached bit that would really bother me. I would rather compromise something else and have a detached house.

The council house bit would only bother me in so far as it is very likely to be a family with multiple children and I am misophonic, so I would probably be wary about noise.

Snugglemonkey · 30/08/2023 20:42

StopThatBloodyNoise · 30/08/2023 15:39

I grew up, from the age of 11, on council estates. I bought my first (council) house with a council mortgage, at the age of 27. If I had £500k, I'd be buying somewhere else.

Me too.

Snugglemonkey · 30/08/2023 20:42

StopThatBloodyNoise · 30/08/2023 15:39

I grew up, from the age of 11, on council estates. I bought my first (council) house with a council mortgage, at the age of 27. If I had £500k, I'd be buying somewhere else.

Me too.

AnneValentine · 30/08/2023 20:43

Meatus · 30/08/2023 19:54

Oh fantastic, someone is finally talking facts!

@Ohyesreally , can you please post a link to the data you’re preferring to? Data relating to antisocial behaviour broken down by accommodation type (owned home vs prince rented be HA).

It sounds really interesting and you’ve obviously done a lot of research so will have links to the “facts” to hand.

Quick google brings up endless sources. It’s shit. Really really shit. But poverty is a common reason for crime, drug use. It’s a disgusting cycle that isn’t broken because society consistently lets these groups down.

https://housingcare.org/downloads/kbase/2027.pdf

https://housingcare.org/downloads/kbase/2027.pdf

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 30/08/2023 20:51

Krickley · 30/08/2023 19:36

£500k to live in an ex council house on a 50:50 council owned street. Its not even detached. This is utter madness!!!

my last house was on a road like this, absolute shit hole. Council tenants dont care the state of their houses/front gardens. Fridge freezers/mattresses left out. Surely for £500k you should be looking at a nice area fgs

What none of them? I'd better go and tell my Nana that she's council housing wrong.

mumyes · 30/08/2023 20:58

IHateLegDay · 30/08/2023 15:42

Has it occurred to anyone that maybe her issue is nothing to do with the area or the possible tenants but maybe to do with the fact that if there are any issues with the adjoining house (eg loose tiles, damp that spreads to her property etc), trying to contact the council to sort it is near impossible?
If she had a genuine issue with the area, she wouldn't be considering moving there.

Jesus, you lot can be utter bitches.

Thank you.

To be clear, I have no issues with the idea of living next to 'poor' (FFS!) people otherwise no, I wouldn't be considering it. And like many have said, 'poor' people can make v nice neighbours.

My main concern is whether re-sale will be an issue, how easy it'll be to deal with the council / HA as the owners.

It is common where I live for ex council houses to sell for well over 500k. Many are in nice locations (villages) with good school catchments.
But I think often ownership has moved privately, whereas in this road, it's more mixed still.

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mumyes · 30/08/2023 21:02

onanotherday · 30/08/2023 16:01

OMG ....run for hills...
I'm a housing association tenant...I'm working full time...educated to post grad and love to garden...be scared!

Hopefully you're being ironic. You sound like a v interesting / normal neighbour.

Can I ask, for my own education, how you are in this position? Genuine question with no judgement at all (I've been on benefits before, I know it can happen to any one). Is it that your income is v low?

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vodkaredbullgirl · 30/08/2023 21:03

May be some of us can't afford our own houses.

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 30/08/2023 21:05

I think its awful that an ex council house is for sale for 500k. We taxpayers paid for that house, it should not have been sold at all.

Wherethecrawdadssingg · 30/08/2023 21:09

@SquirrelFeeder Nope. I grew up in a deprived area with council housing galore. Saw it with my own eyes. Wouldn’t want to do it now! Also used to work for HA. Dealt with issues firsthand. Where you live and your house is one of the most important decisions you make. I have my factors and dealbreakers, you have yours.

Wherethecrawdadssingg · 30/08/2023 21:13

@mumyes Based on HA I worked for you may struggle if any issues. We had many a private owner ring to report neighbour problems. HA/Councils won’t evict residents unless issue is extreme which means you may be stuck with low/mid level behaviour which isn’t deemed ‘serious enough’ but still makes your life a misery. Some will say at least they CAN be evicted because nightmare private neighbours can’t be. Which is true. But that’s the gamble and I wouldn’t make it.

PrimitivePerson · 30/08/2023 21:21

Ex-council properties are really easy to sell because they're affordable. We had no problem shifting ours at all.

AnneValentine · 30/08/2023 21:37

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 30/08/2023 21:05

I think its awful that an ex council house is for sale for 500k. We taxpayers paid for that house, it should not have been sold at all.

And you’ve never had a leg up?

Onlysomewhereweknow · 30/08/2023 21:54

Some of these comments 🤣
I lived with with DD in a council house for years, I have a degree and a good a job. We were fairly quiet - no issues.
I now live in a bought 4 bed house worth far more than 500,000 as a single mum with 2 kids at home and pregnant with the third and the noise is 100 percent more than it used to be !

Crikeyalmighty · 30/08/2023 22:04

@AnneValentine actually no, we haven't. No council house, no HA place, no inheritance and we are late 50's /early 60s . I don't agree with selling council houses off at all - and if it were to be the case I think any profit should be 50/50 over what was paid

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 30/08/2023 22:04

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 30/08/2023 21:05

I think its awful that an ex council house is for sale for 500k. We taxpayers paid for that house, it should not have been sold at all.

Don't council tenants pay rent? And of they buy (and then sell on) their property then they've paid a mortgage ?

Teder · 30/08/2023 22:06

New developments have to include affordable housing. Some of you are ruling this out completely, your choice I guess.

My new build estate is primarily 3/4 bedroom houses worth close to a million, some smaller 2 bedroom houses and housing association flats and 2 bedroom houses.

My shared ownership property is attached to a housing association property. It’s a mum, dad and their 2 children. Both work. Their garden is neater than mine! This area is mainly families or single adults. It’s quiet and friendly.

Fuckthatguy · 30/08/2023 22:38

Where are these houses for £500k?

mumyes · 30/08/2023 22:47

Fuckthatguy · 30/08/2023 22:38

Where are these houses for £500k?

All over the south east! 1 hour from London

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