To rehome this dog without the owners permission?

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So there's a very long backstory here that I do not have the strength to type out from start to finish.
To keep it simple basically the dog belonged to my dad who dropped dead unexpectedly last year. He now technically belongs to my mother who came to live with us and brought him with her. She was living her nearly a year and has just returned to her house which is abroad. So she is not in this country. She has left the dog here. She was supposed to take him back with her but did not get his vaccinations sorted in time,
Basically this is not a suitable place for a dog to live. We have been trying our best to do right by him but he can't stay here long term.
I have zero confidence that my mum is actually going to come through with a plan and fund it, to get this dog back to her home.
Its probably important to mention she has narcissistic tendencies and a full blown hoarding and shopping addiction. And she is also disabled and has limited mobility. To get to her home you either fly or to take the dog there would be a 4 day car journey across Europe.
My husband took her home (and thered have been no room in the car for the dog even if she had sorted his vaccinations due to the fact this 8 seat car was packed completely full of her items that she had amassed whilst here) and she did not even pay him petrol for that.
When he got her back to her house it transpired she had been lying about paying her bills and all utilities were cut off.. the gardener had stopped coming and the garden was so wild you couldn't even access it. She also had not paid us her contribution for bills at our house. Important to mention probably that she has no mortgage and gets 3.5k a month in income.
Also relevant is that whilst living with us she did barely anything for the dog... and despite me nagging her never got him sheared or nails cut etc until I eventually just went and paid for it myself because I was worried about the health of the dog.
Other important info might be that we have no garden, are straight onto a main road. Dog does not like children (snaps and growls and has bitten my youngest a few times) and I have two primary aged children one of whom is under assessment for and and I am also pregnant. I also work 12 hour night shifts and my husband works full time.... its very hard to care for this dog well. He is a very emotionally needy dog. Howls if someone is not in the room with him.He's a poodle.
My husband and I really feel it woukd be best if he went to live with someone with more time, no children and a garden.
I contacted the dogs Trust but they said they would need the permission of the legal owner.
My mum will not give her permission but also has no actual plan to return him to her.
We cannot afford either financially or in terms of time off work, to do another cross Europe journey with this dog.
I do not know what to do.
I feel like a failure. My dad loved this dog so much but I just can't look after him in the way he needs. I'm very angry at my mother for not prioritising him and then also refusing to acknowledge or take responsibility for the fact this causes him to suffer.
Its causing me so much stress ive been having actual nightmares about this dog.
I'm not sure what we can do without my mums permission? Do we early have to just care for this dog (badly) until she decides to sort out getting him?
Id be grateful for any advice.
Should I just try and go ahead with the dogs trust rehousing and give her number and hope for the best?

Does she have any other family members she's able to guilt trip to take the dog in? (Without children)

The dog needs rehoming or PTS immediately.

He's bitten children multiple times.

Could the Cinnamon Trust help?
Explain that your father died before he could make plans for his dog, who needs a quiet child free home with people who have the time to devote to a dog.
https://cinnamon.org.uk/pet-profiling/

Surely you just tell the Dog’s Trust or the dog warden or whatever rescue centre that someone has abandoned this dog at your property and you can’t look after it.

He didn’t come with an adoption or breeder contract you have hold of did he? If your dad bought/rescued him and you have proof of this + his death certificate I’d use these to prove he’s mine altho in the eyes of the law it’s tricky as technically his legal owner is whoever has been funding him and taking over his care most places would accept microchip + vets letters or prescriptions or similar in your name if he wasn’t microchipped it’d be much easier as you could just use groomer and vets to help prove he’s yours as I had to do for my dps when they their new dog who wasn’t chipped yet was stolen when reporting to police.

i wouldn’t mention the passport if you can get chip sorted rescues rely on what you tell them and what they can physically tell ie age estimate from teeth, microchip details as they have no access to anything else unless owner volunteers the information. It makes no difference mentioned or not anyway tbh you just wouldn’t be handing it over with him.

Id be contacting a smaller rescue explaining the situation and asking if they’d be willing to sort a foster while you get his details changed over but if nowhere is willing to help they will help with advising on what checks and questions you should be doing on new owners as many rescues don’t have time and space atm but are happy to help get the dog to a good environment for it rather than a blank no.

@MotherEarthisaTerf he snapped at a child who invaded his personal space due to op admitting she can’t supervise properly enough to have a fearful dog in the house with children who don’t mean to but overwhelm it because she’s ran off her feet with everything else.

Hardly a behavioural euthanasia offence. That’s suggested for dogs who are unpredictable or unpreventable this is easily preventable just not in OPs set up the dog is perfectly able to coexist peacefully in the right environment it’s just like many who haven’t been socialised with them fearful and shouldn’t live with young children due to the childrens unpredictability. Hence why a lot of rescue dogs are advertised as teens only I don’t think a healthy dog who simply requires a home that is either child free or has older children and strict boundaries over the dogs personal space should be put down for snapping when put in a situation where they’re fearful and feel trapped.

Well he definitely can't stay in your house if he's biting your young children! Sounds like your mum can't meet his needs either.

Try the poodle rescue network? Or as above the cinnamon trust might be able to help.

You're just not qualified to judge this.

Whatever you do you must be completely honest about the dog's history and behaviour.

The microchip registered is not proof of ownership at all. A dog should be registered to the keeper of the dog who is not necessarily the owner.

From www.bluecross.org.uk/advice/pets/wellbeing-and-care/microchipping-your-dog-or-cat

"Is my pet’s microchip proof of ownership?
No, a microchip alone is not proof of legal ownership. Under the Microchipping of Dogs (England) Regulations legislation, the person who cares for the dog and keeps them in their home is called a ‘keeper’, not an ‘owner’. The Microchipping of Cats and Dogs (England) Regulations 2023 states that a ‘keeper’ is “the person with whom the animal [cat or dog] normally resides.” This person has legal responsibility for their pet, but it does not prove legal ownership.

This means that your dog’s microchip must be registered to the ‘keeper’, who may not always be the owner.

To prove ownership, you may also be asked to provide other evidence including proof of purchase, veterinary records and insurance."

It is also not true that a vet or anyone else will hand out the registered keeper's details on scanning the chip. That would be a breach of GDPR.

I suspect that from a legal perspective after a certain amount of time and documented attempts to contact your mother telling her to resolve the issue the dog may be considered to be abandoned with you but am by no means certain. I would try to get advice along these lines though.

I think if you explain to the Dog's Trust that your Mum has abandoned your deceased father's dog, and moved abroad, and that whilst you're wishing you could help, the dog is not suitable to be around children because he bites them, they will get it.

Is the dog registered abroad? Dog passports are no longer valid if they were issued in the U.K.

You've paid for the dog's bills and she's abandoned it. If it's bitten children it's going to be very difficult to rehome.

Get his jabs up to date and fly him out to her as cargo. I'd train the kids to leave him alone maybe a stairgate so he has a room they don't go in like the kitchen.

I do not have the money to fly the dog out to her and she cannot drive.. she lives rural 2 hours from nearest airport. Its a logistical nightmare.
I tried the stairgate but he woukd trash the kitchen, scratched all the carpet off the bottom step. I then tried a large metal baby pen with tarp underneath it that he put his bed, food and water in, it worked for a couple of nights but then he destroyed that, ripped the tarp up, spilt all his food and water over his bed and even managed to get one of the metal rungs out so got free and trashed the kitchen again.
So now he's in his crate overnight which is sad for him. Obviously this can't go on long term.

Yes thanks for everyones help. Im going to try and get the microchip changed to my name. I have his passport and all his details and I have my dads death certificate.

Dont worry there's no way I'll be having him pts. I know full well he could make a good pet for someone in the right circumstances. Dogs Trust re home many dogs who can't be homed with younger children. He would never attack a child its just he gets afraid if kids try and touch him too much. This is common for certain breeds of small dogs. There are many dogs who arent really good family pets and they arent dangerous. You just can't have toddlers playing with them unsupervised.
This just sadly isn't the right home for him at all.

Your going to have to go back to the dogs Trust and explain your dad died your mom has abandoned him and he cannot live in your home any longer

You’d be much better off just being honest with them and explaining that the dog has been abandoned at your home rather than trying to change the microchip and pretend it’s yours. Then you could just end up in trouble with your mum and the charity for lying about it.

The dog has been abandoned by its owner. The owner has moved internationally and has left it. Send your mother an email stating that the dog has been abandoned and that if the dog is not collected within 30 days, the dog will be rehomed. Ask for a read receipt on the email, do you can prove it’s been read. Provide the dogs home with this evidence.

I don’t know where you are OP, but if you’re in staffs I think Pebbles Legacy might be able to help you.

If he's a Poodle, try the breed specific rescue Poodle Network. They are UK based and have a network of volunteers who transport Poodles to their rescues with space and to their new homes. My lovely friend is one of them - she happily drives miles for them, often as part of a transport chain.