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to think that boarding houses could come back into fashion (not boarding schools)

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NeedToChangeName · 29/08/2023 10:59

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-66591376

This news report got me thinking. When my Dad was a student, he rented a bedroom in someone's house, alongside other students. Quite simple accommodation without facilities that people might expect nowadays, but it was affordable and convenient. And extra income for the landlady

I wonder if this arrangement might become popular again, with (1) students / young professionals struggling to find suitable accommodation and (2) home owners struggling to pay mortgages

Keira sitting on a purple sofa with a big green plant in the background and a brown wooden unit. She has blonde hair and has her nose and ears pierced. She has a ring on a necklace around her neck and has a purple jumper on.

University accommodation: 'I got into uni, but couldn't find anywhere to live'

A charity warns the number of new purpose-built rooms is tumbling, despite student numbers growing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-66591376

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BlackpoolintheSixties · 10/08/2024 11:44

Seaside boarding houses:

I went to school in Blackpool in the 60s. Lots of my friends’ mums ran boarding houses. Those weren’t what some people are describing above, they were what’s now called guest houses and B &Bs. Breakfast was provided and usually an evening meal. Most “visitors” stayed for a week. The family lived in the same house: I imagine they squashed up during the summer so there were more letting rooms available. Link.

Boarding accommodation for students

Several of my friends went on to training colleges, to learn how to teach. That was a 3 year course, possibly with a further year to get a degree - BEd mostly. Their college provided accommodation and all meals. If you were on a “full grant” (the means-tested government grant you got to study, happy days) it went partly to the college and partly to the student for their other expenses. All my friends were put up in family houses, as suggested by the OP, having breakfast there and lunch and dinner in college already paid for. If you ate out there was no refund! Very few training college students I knew had independent arrangements. If they didn’t get a full grant their parents were expected to give them money to make the total the same. Presumably the parents had to pay the college (amount dependent on income) for the accommodation and meals if they were really high earners, but I didn’t know anyone like that.

I imagine this system stopped when training colleges became universities - but others may know differently.

Where I live now there are lots of (foreign) language schools. Many arrange for their students to live with families, who usually provide breakfast and supper. The school arranges this, charges the parents and pays the family. I’ve noticed an increasing tendency for the language schools to build or buy accommodation blocks, which are like university halls of residence. They probably make more money that way and it saves them having to find host families. It also gives the students more independence.

Papergirl1968 · 10/08/2024 12:05

I went on a three month course in Harlow, Essex, to gain qualifications in my job and all of the students on the course, apart from a couple who lived fairly locally, were put up with families in the area. This would have been around 1989.
I lived with an elderly woman and her little dog. She certainly cooked an evening meal and probably there was toast or cereal or something for breakfast but I can’t remember if a packed lunch was provided. She asked if I liked egg and chips and I said yes, so virtually every evening meal was egg and chips!
She was a nice lady though and we’d sit and watch the soaps in an evening.
at one point there were two of us girls living there as our courses overlapped.
I had to come home every weekend as weekend accommodation was not included and she often had her granddaughter to stay then anyway. So it was a long drive back to the Midlands on a Friday afternoon and back again on a Sunday evening.
We kept in touch for some years with occasional letters but she died many years ago.
I also remember seaside b&b holidays and wasn’t keen on those as I felt so self conscious as a teenager trailing into the dining room after my parents and also was (still am) a really fussy eater so meals were a nightmare. I also hated having to share a room with my parents, a shared bathroom with other guests and the general lack of privacy. Now I’d always opt for self catering or an anonymous chain hotel!

Elsvieta · 10/08/2024 15:12

Boarding houses were places where that landlady served you breakfast and dinner, at set times, and you got what you were given. Can't see many people going for that nowadays - there are so many fad diets etc, plus people just expect to have choice and flexibility over what they eat.

RidingMyBike · 10/08/2024 15:42

Yes, set dinner at a set time. That was also what it was like in college accommodation for people training to be nurses or teachers. You ate what was provided at the time it was provided!

Compared to when I was at university, some modules taught into the evenings, students had jobs so were eating at different times. There were many people who were veggie, vegan, dairy-free, ate halal etc. There is no way a large shepherds pie with carrots and peas dished up at 6pm on the dot would work!

MrsMarzetti · 10/08/2024 17:34

Comefromaway · 29/08/2023 11:34

Your link is all places in the US. I don't think that type of place has ever really existed in the UK. A boarding house here would be much, much smaller, like the type you still get in some seaside towns.

What you show above is more akin to a catered halls of residence.

They certainly did exist here in the UK. In my town there was a dreadful fire in one and many men died, think it was in the early 60s.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/08/2024 18:13

My dd had ‘weekdays only’ lodgers for a couple years - it helped to pay the mortgage. I don’t know what the limit is now, but there was quite a hefty tax free allowance for having lodgers in your own home.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 10/08/2024 18:18

My db was at uni in Manchester and he was at a similar set up back in 1994. The landlady was an arse, but it worked out for him as a student and he met so many lovely people along the way, even a neighbour that didn’t get in with the landlady who he was still friends with until her passing about 2 years ago.

Whale80ne · 10/08/2024 18:25

There's a balance isn't there?

When I was at university in the early 1990s nobody had ensuite accommodation except certain very wealthy overseas students who didn't mix with the 95% of students in the shared bathroom basic halls, or who rented cheap terraced houses together where the living room had often been turned into a bedroom too and the kitchen was the only shared space, and everyone would share one toilet and bathroom.

I even knew someone who sublet someone else's walk in wardrobe with a bed in it - obviously that wasn't technically legal!

Now parents seem to believe their late teens need an ensuite (maybe because halls are no longer single sex) and an astronomically higher percentage of teenagers go to university, so of course prices have skyrocketed and accommodation is harder to find.

Spare room dot com is testament to the fact people have been renting out rooms to paying guests on a fairly large scale in recent decades, just as they always have...

Arrivapercy · 10/08/2024 18:25

I think boarding houses used to be quite a particular phenomen which could exist due to:

  • women who couldn't really work outside of the home, who had time to cook & clean for tenants
  • women who were widowed (eg after wars) needing a source of income
  • some rather big old houses owned by families fallen on harder times needing money
  • few safety regulations & no licensing regimes for HMOs, no background checks of landlords, no mortgage providers limiting rooms being rented, no monitoring/, few tax implications

So you might have had a large old house owned by a genteel widow fallen on hard times, no income or mortgage so willing to rent cheaply, with four or five people each renting rooms, it could be quite sociable dining etc.

Nowadays?

  • most people with a house large enough do not need the money
  • most homes are small and people often don't have many empty/unused rooms
  • regulations and tax impact mean its not worth it for the effort
  • heavily mortgaged people who'd need it most may not get the permission from mortgage provider
  • women have a wealth of other ways to earn money
BMW6 · 11/08/2024 16:57

I can see HMO's increasing with tenants sharing kitchens and bathrooms, but not "lodgings" as used to be because of so many tightened regulations around food hygiene etc plus people simply wouldn't accept "eat what you're given".

I remember Guest Houses from the 60's onwards. Lots of house rules (no room occupation between 10am and 4pm for example no matter what the weather) and very limited choices at meals. If you didn't like any of the food on offer you went hungry or went out to eat at your expense.

I can't see that coming back.

blackcherryconserve · 11/08/2024 17:05

gabsdot · 29/08/2023 11:01

This is already a thing, in Ireland anyway. It's called Digs.

That's what they used to be called in the UK too.
Boarding houses were once the home of the lonely elderly population here, often located at seaside resorts. The landlady would provide meals on top of the cost of a room and shared bathroom.

JenniferBooth · 11/08/2024 17:05

OnionBhajis · 29/08/2023 11:43

My parents have talked about boarding houses.

My mum has said when they used to go to seaside as a family they'd stay in a boarding house.

My dad stayed in one for a while when he just started work.

It sounds like there was a matronly woman who had strict rules about time you got back. But who also made you breakfast. I might be imagining it but I think there were rules about having a lady friend over too.

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