To break into my new neighbours house *THREAD 2*

[Catsos]

Following on from my thread yesterday https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4881905-to-break-into-new-neighbours-house-serious-question-not-trolling

to update all of the lovely people who are trying to help me rescue my cat who has got himself stuck in an unoccupied house.

Updating very shortly

We need an update on the crabsticks.

@StorminanDcup because not everyone bloody loves animals!!? In your OWN HOUSE you should get a say as to whether a random car can come in. Newly renovated or not, my expense or not I wouldn't want the faff on of having to clean up after someone else's pet.

I'd also be pretty mad to find out neighbours had accessed my property without my saying so or company. No matter whether it was breaking in or not

Cat. Not car. I don't want a car inside my house either

you've said you'll pay to have things put right so don't worry about the neighbours.

Well, OP said she didn't have much cash but would pay what she could afford - which may or may not cover it.

Aww gorgeous pics of your cat. Ignore the negativity - some people are rude and should frankly frick off.

Anyway, back to the important business.

May I suggest something like this to keep your cat out of anymore catflaps op? It's not a bomber jacket, but I think the leather will provide more friction to make it harder to crawl round 90 degree bends in cat tunnels. This cats a bit more bulked than yours so you may need to double up.

So don’t put a hole through your wall through which an animal can enter! Thankfully it was a domestic cat and not a wild fox.

@Catsos

DH and I are so pleased that your cat is safe, but when I was reading the open tabs on your laptop, I could not control the laughter !!

DH doesn't usually bother with MN but I was laughing so hard, he had to come over and look....

You never know, the new owners might not actually care that much. God forbid they might actually be reasonable and just think perhaps they need a more secure catflap that doesn't trap other cats in their house. If they can afford to renovate the house I doubt a bit of superficial touching up will be that court worthy to them.

Because I can feel any damn way I please about what for me is a hypothetical situation - it hasn't happened to me has it? - and not what some random on MN I should imagine I should feel.

What is wrong with feeling pissed off, by the way? It doesn't mean I would act on it, but I know myself and I know that I would probably be annoyed in the first instance. After it had sunk in (and if the owner was nice about it and offered to clean up) I would probably feel quite differently and chalk it up to experience

They didn’t. It was there when they bought the house and very likely thought (obviously incorrectly in hindsight) that it was secure

Trespass 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You can keep him in your own garden without destroying his life. Meanwhile your menace of a cat is out there literally damaging peoples property and you’re laughing and saying “well there’s fuck all I can do about this”. You’re not rich enough to be this stupid as it seems. If I was your neighbours a bill and a reality check would be coming your way.

@Catsos so pleased you have your beautiful puss safely home, I hope the neighbours awe understanding. We have a little odd eyed white from a friend’s lockdown litter (vets were not doing neutering) The only thing she knew was she had seen a large white cat in the garden, looking at your boy I wonder if the father could have been a Turkish Angora or a cross breed. Here is a picture of my puss cat.

I couldn’t agree more.

For all we know the builder requested permission from the owners prior to accessing the property, I would imagine that is best practice.

I am a huge cat lover. Now onto my 6th. I would prefer my cats go out and be free. My 4th was a roamer and a cat-bully. (I only found out about the true extent of his bullying after he died. But he had genuine issues. That's why rescues can be more tricky). He went into one of my neighbour's homes and sprayed in her son's bedroom. He gained access through an open back door. He was neutered (and many years before this incident). She asked me about it and when she described the cat - of course it was mine - a 1-eyed Siamese - yup mine. I immediately - no hesitation - asked about any damage and what I needed to do to make good. She had cleaned up and didnt need me to do more. But I followed up with the vet as both neighbour and I were curious. 1st question: does the neighbour have a teenage boy. Reply: yeah. Why? Hormones. The neighbour didnt want to close her doors or windows or kick her teenage son out. My cat was free to roam. As allowed by law in the UK (I have wondered on this thread how many people posting are from outside the UK). So we both knew it was a potential ongoing risk. He never did it again and sadly had to be PTS at age 10.

But I was clear with my neighbour who I had known many years - if there is damage that is mine to pay for. Not by law or whatever - just because I valued neighbour relations. I didnt hesitate. So you do need to be totally open here. This was your cat and that was the damage caused. I just do not understand these posts about well these new neighbours should have done x, y & z about the cat flap.

I'm so pleased you got him out OP!!! A Bank Holiday Miracle!!!! Hopefully your new neighbours see the funnny side

The key to all dispute resolution is first to attempt to reach an agreement in a non-confrontational way. Getting a grip is my professional advice in order to achieve that end.

People saying its cruel to keep cats inside but they're fine staying in If there's been an unfortunate incident where they've had to have something done and kept monitored.

A lot of pet owners never want to take responsibility for any issues their pets cause or if something happens to them

I just love 'do cats like crab sticks...'

This is so true!

I made the mistake of renting a flat to a cat owner. Never ever again!

The place stinks to high heaven, the cat wrecked every carpet, the sofas, the walls! It's a cheap rent so the £450 deposit covered fuck all. Not to mention the lost rent for the time it'll take to sort or the fact that we have 3 kids under 6, both work and have fuck all time to be re-renovating a flat. Oh the rage!

Anyone who thinks its 'just a bit of wee' is living in fairyland and completely nose blind.

(And before anyone starts, it was a flat I bought and lived in myself as a student and now can't sell, not even at massive (40% loss) or on council buy back, so I am not just an accidental landlord but a hostage one.)

OP glad you got your cat back safely and hope the new neighbours aren't too upset.

So glad your cat is home. If I was your neighbour I wouldn’t give a toss about what had happened and that there would be a couple of crab sticks on my window sill. A) because I’m an animal lover and I get it B) because I’m dealing with all sorts of serious family illnesses etc at the moment and things like this get put into perspective. All the best OP.

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