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Need to rant about my husband today

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ohdort · 26/08/2023 20:03

I don't really want to speak to anyone in my life about it. Because I don't want anyone to take a serious dislike to him, but I need to vent.

Today has been so difficult. He works very hard and I think that he may be depressed. But when I think back, he has always been weighed down with stuff. We met a long time ago and even then, we were supposed to be relatively carefree and he was always weighed down by stuff, unable to enjoy the moment. I always thought I was just a phase or a ' hard time ' but he's often just extremely negative.

He doesn't have a run of a mill office job, but works in a high pressured physical role, 6 days a week. So I get it, he doesn't have much time off and he's also physically tired. I work from home and we have to children under 4. It's tough going. I take care of everything at home ( and outsource some stuff ). But I am at home more and he is away a lot, so a lot falls to me.

In any case when he does have time off, he's just a constant stream of negativity. Waking up the whole house and shouting about not having toilet paper- just one delightful example. He finds fault in everything at home ' it's a shit hole ' ' everything is everywhere '... when I'm literally breaking my back trying to keep things reasonable. He always finds something to pick on. ' why is this here or there ? '

Also because he rarely gets time off, he doesn't really want to go out. He's never positive and up best about anything. Everything is a massive effort and he would rather stay at home than for example, than watch our daughter during her dance class. If we do go anywhere, he wants to come straight back home.

This morning I said I was taking my DD to her dance class and I would take my younger one too. Because whenever we are just at home together I always end up fighting with him anyway we he just spends hours on his own activities / hobbies at home and barely interacts with us. So I decided a few weeks ago, rather than sit around with the kids in the house and waiting for him to come and join us, I would just do my own thing with them ( at least in the morning ). It's left me less frustrated.

I told him this morning that I'm taking them to the class and it's in a big gym, where you can eat / swim/ use spa etc: I suggested to him, why don't we go together and you can have a swim and spa and then we can watch DD dancing etc. maybe after she can go and play in the playground there and we can have lunch together.

He said that was a ' shit day out ' and he doesn't want to go and to leave him alone and I should ' come up with better suggestions ' as he thinks going there is so absolutely lame. I said he should come up with suggestions if he doesn't like mine.. anyhow, I said I'll go with the kids and leave him to it. DD then begged him to come and he came. He was so utterly miserable there and literally ran out of the door as soon as he could ( even though DD wanted to play in the playground with a girl she knows ). He just flew out of there and wanted to come straight home.

We then found out some relatives of his will visit his parents for Christmas ( so not even us ). And he was angry and annoyed he was going to have to spend time with them and how shit it all was and how he can't be bothered. Then he picked a fight saying he doesn't like the name we picked for our second DD and how he only did it because I insisted on the name. He's done this quite a few times since she's been born and it really upsets me and upsets me for my DD too. I said it's really horrible you keep bringing up the name. He said well your actions have consequences.

Most of the time I just go with what he says, because if I make a decision that he doesn't like- he will just keep going on and on about how wrong I was. This keeps happening with the name and it's really upsetting. He did agree at the time. But I liked it more than he did.

Really fed up with it all today. I just want a nice husband who wants to have fun with me and his family and who doesn't just drag me down like this.

OP posts:
76evie · 27/08/2023 09:42

ohdort · 26/08/2023 20:45

He also says ' look at yourself and what you're like to be with '.

I live with a man like you have described and also says things like that to me. it is utterly tiresome and soul destroying. The negativity just grabs you down. I don’t believe he will ever change, you need to make plans to start afresh without him. You may well be happier alone than in a relationship with someone who isn’t interested in being with you alone or for family time. I also need to take my own advice!

Naunet · 27/08/2023 09:43

What is the point of him? Seriously, he’s a bad husband and a bad father.

Naunet · 27/08/2023 09:46

76evie · 27/08/2023 09:42

I live with a man like you have described and also says things like that to me. it is utterly tiresome and soul destroying. The negativity just grabs you down. I don’t believe he will ever change, you need to make plans to start afresh without him. You may well be happier alone than in a relationship with someone who isn’t interested in being with you alone or for family time. I also need to take my own advice!

Please do, life is too short to waste on underdeveloped men!

R4ID · 27/08/2023 09:48

I think you need to ask someone to watch the kids and have a very serious conversation with him so you can both air all of your issues. I’d make it really clear that you will not tolerate this behaviour going forward. That you will leave if it continues. Be really really clear on what you want your life to be like going forward. If he wants to bring up issues he has with you then you can discuss them also. Ask him if he’s depressed, if he thinks he can change, what compromises there can be. For example can he change his job, reduce his hours, find some joy in his life on his own as well as with you and the family? Can he start with something small like agreeing to a morning out each weekend with you and the kids? And build from there? But it sounds like long term changes are needed to the way he is living and the way you are all living.

From personal experience my husband went through a period of depression he was constantly moaning about the house, didn’t want to go anywhere, moaned about everyone we were meeting etc. I made it clear I would not tolerate living like this and would leave if it continued. He made some serious changes and is now a much happier person and we spend loads of time together. Firstly he got a new job, one where he feels appreciated and respected, he wfh 3 days a week and on those days he has time to run, this has lifted his mood. He joined a football team and goes for a kick about one day a week. He started going out with friends one afternoon every other weekend too. He spends an hour alone after work to decompress then we spend the rest of the evening together. We take it in turns to plan one date night a month each. We go out every Sat and Sun morning and do something together, no moaning allowed.

If you are determined to not walk away at this point have you considered marriage counselling? If you can’t work the issues yourselves and he won’t agree to counselling then you have two choices, continue living like this or leave.

Nemesias · 27/08/2023 09:55

What would happen if you shut him down when he starts being nasty? For example if he started talking about your DDs name you just said “I’m not talking about this again”. Or if he makes a nasty comment about you just say “don’t be a twat Dave”.

it sounds like you might just sort of take it, try and explain, apologise - just shut him down instead. Why should you have to listen to him slagging you off to your face?

PlacidPenelope · 27/08/2023 10:00

What a thoroughly miserable existence for you and your children. I this really the childhood you want for your children, this is what you want them to remember, have as a model for their own relationships in the future? Is this really how you want to spend the rest of your life on this earth?

We only get one life.

You and your children are not living a life you are merely existing in a depressing and soul destroying environment.

He won't change so you have to make changes for the benefit of you and your children by making a different life that doesn't include him. Your and their lives will be enhanced without him in it. Make plans to divorce, free yourself of this burden.

Pixiedust1234 · 27/08/2023 10:04

He's using you as an emotional punching bag and that's not fair.

Does he have to work 6 days a week? He either needs to see a GP regarding depression and/or you both need marriage counselling. If neither is done then leave. You are doing everything anyway so your life won't be that different...only it be be happier. Or you could just leave.

Sundaybaby · 27/08/2023 10:06

I don’t buy he’s tired and depressed. We all know how exhausting it is to have a new baby - on call 24/7/365 with no defined end in sight - but we don’t treat our families like this.
It’s all about him, isn’t it? He’s controlling your lives with his self-centred misery and his determination to destroy you and your hopes.
You have to suggest something which will meet his high standards? Sod that. This is yet another indication that he’s put himself on a pedestal.
Stop trying to rationalise the situation and stop looking for blame on your part. Get yourself and your children well away from him. Permanently.

Bluesky85 · 27/08/2023 10:07

It sounds like he’s adding absolutely nothing to the relationship. Also, I’d consider how your children will grow up with a dad like this who shows little interest in them, and who doesn’t treat their mum well. You don’t want them thinking this is the norm.

I think you need to ask him why he’s so down/ negative all the time. If he says anything about ‘his shit life’ etc then remind him he has the power to change it- new job/ leave his family if that’s what he feel needs to happen.

but he needs to understand how living with him is miserable and that you’d rather not continue if nothing will change. If he is depressed then it’s up to him to change his life- not just blame everything on other people.

it sounds like you are basically ‘alone’ now, so maybe being without him might lift a weight for you?

LosingMyPancakes · 27/08/2023 10:11

If my life consisted of working a hard job 6 days a week - I admit I would not be fucked with kids and chores and a spouse wanting more attention.

He needs to find a different job and get some perspective that life is about living, not working.

KTSl1964 · 27/08/2023 10:13

What would happen if you said “I can see you are deeply unhappy in the marriage - what do YOU want to do about it” - it’s no life for you and it’s not a partnership. Did he ever communicate better than this in the past?
Hes not showing a good role model to the children and I know it’s personal and you don’t need to answer here but how does he show intimacy or approach you for sex. He’s certainly got issues.

Teaandbiscuits60 · 27/08/2023 10:13

Well you don’t want to not like him but what’s there to like? You say he doesn’t care when you’re upset but I think he cares very much in fact it’s his goal! He feels justified in upsetting you/ the girls because he wants you to feel like he does. Ask him this what does he want from this relationship. Stop him from going on about this and that just what does he want ? I believe you need to leave him otherwise you will be dragged down by him then resentful. You’ve already started to do things on your own with the girls. If you stay in this relationship you’ll continue to do things on your own with the girls and have separate lives. He’ll be happy though he’s left alone to do his own thing. You need to leave.

SofiaSoFar · 27/08/2023 10:16

Oh dear, OP.

He sounds awful. He might be depressed but he still sounds awful.

When DD was little, DH was in a high pressure job travelling extensively and often flying home only arriving back on Saturday, jet lagged and exhausted. He couldn't wait to be home with us and would forego catching up on sleep during the day to spend as much time as possible with DD.

He wouldn't have dreamed of complaining about anything that had (or hadn't) been done around the house.

Has your husband always been like this?

Cotonsugar · 27/08/2023 10:18

He sounds like he’s very depressed and needs outside help. I recognise these symptoms 🙁

AfraidToRun · 27/08/2023 10:21

OP, in good healthy relationships you never have to question if your partner loves or likes you. It's usually pretty obvious.....

He is fucking your head up, get out, clear your head, live a happy life.

Chamomileteaplease · 27/08/2023 10:21

How many hours does he work in these six days? Because as others have said, if it's physical and many hours, he could be just completely exhausted and literally have nothing left to give.

However, I think you said he was a draining type of person even before kids?

I would thank heaven that he works six days so that you can get divorced and the children won't have to spend much time with such an abusive, grumpy father at access times.

Split up and get some help in to manage. You will be able to enjoy life. I bet it would feel like a 50lb pack has been lifted from your shoulders 🙂.

Sundaybaby · 27/08/2023 10:27

You say he doesn’t care when you’re upset but I think he cares very much in fact it’s his goal! He feels justified in upsetting you/ the girls because he wants you to feel like he does.
👏

Onelifeonly · 27/08/2023 10:28

I wouldn't normally say this, but you need to leave him.

Changeychang · 27/08/2023 10:29

@ohdort

What are his hobbies OP?

Createausername1970 · 27/08/2023 10:33

Something needs to change, but is that him changing his whole personality or you changing the way you deal with it?

My DH has a negative side to him, but so did his dad when he was alive. So when DH seems to be getting into a moany rut, I call him out on it. I tell him to stop channelling his own dad, his mum didn't like it when she was alive and neither do I. That gives him food for thought as he used to get cross with his dad for the way he spoke to and treated the mum. He is now more aware of what he is doing and saying and does try to curb it. But he doesn't actually WANT to behave like a knob, so is open to being told about it.

The other thing I would definitely start to do in your shoes is start to make a life for you and the kids that doesn't always include him. So take the kids to places they enjoy, but don't specifically invite your partner. Start arranging things with family and friends. If they ask about your partner then just say he isn't interested in coming. Be truthful about the situation, but don't bad mouth him.

You can say to him you appreciate he only has one day off, so you are taking the kids out to allow him some peace and quiet.

If he appreciates it, he might start to mellow. If he moans about it then you know he is determined to moan at you whatever you do. In that scenario, carry on doing things your way, and start to plan your exit strategy.

PinkiOcelot · 27/08/2023 10:37

OP, do yourself a massive favour and get rid of this awful man.

Thelonelygiraffe · 27/08/2023 10:42

Leave him.

He sounds awful.

Blames you for everything and doesn't bring anything positive to your life. He will be negatively affecting your dc as well.

Life's too short, and you deserve better.

He sounds like he doesn't even like you, never mind love you.

lechatnoir · 27/08/2023 10:46

Op I feel so sad for you and your children please don't put up with this. You say he won't engage but as you are (hopefully) coming to terms with the fact this can't go on, you need to force a difficult conversation whether he likes it or not. Tell him you can't & wont continue like this and he either treats you with respect and engages in family life or leave and don't come back. You really have nothing to lose and even if he won't discuss, say your piece and let him make a decision.

Mmhmmn · 27/08/2023 10:55

"He said that was a ' shit day out ' and he doesn't want to go and to leave him alone and I should ' come up with better suggestions '"

Hi DH. I've come up with a Better Suggestion: I'm leaving you because you're a hateful miserable bastard and I'd like to enjoy the life I have left.

OhCobblers · 27/08/2023 10:58

Mmhmmn · 27/08/2023 10:55

"He said that was a ' shit day out ' and he doesn't want to go and to leave him alone and I should ' come up with better suggestions '"

Hi DH. I've come up with a Better Suggestion: I'm leaving you because you're a hateful miserable bastard and I'd like to enjoy the life I have left.

He is a miserable shit of a human being.

Stop subjecting yourself and your children to him even if it is only one day a week.
What a vile vile specimen.