Morals… I know no one cares about COVID but…

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… I work for the NHS and a colleague tested positive last week. We don’t have to test, and I wouldn’t have bothered, but my Nan and Grandad have travelled from another country and are visiting this week. I had a tickly throat and would hate to make them ill, so I tested. I was positive.

My boss told me that as long as I feel well, I should continue to work. I’m feeling a bit rough and VERY tired but fine enough to work. However, I just feel bad for my clients. I work with kids, who come with their parents, who may have vulnerable family members etc… I just feel a bit bad.

I know many people don’t care about COVID and I don’t really either, but I’ve decided to tell my clients and let them decide. Every single one has declined, saying they have vulnerable family members or don’t want to risk it, so I’ve stayed at home and done a couple of virtual sessions/lots of admin.

My boss hasn’t replied to me; I don’t think she’s particularly happy but I think it’s fine.

Am I doing the right thing? Or am I just overreacting and should get on with the sessions? The more I sit at home, the more guilty I feel!..

Everything

Everything! "One of the most concerning long-term effects of COVID-19 is immune dysfunction or hypofunction."

Yanbu. My wife has had Long Covid since April 2020. It has ruined both our lives.

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter growing evidence that COVID damages your immunity to everything. We've seen record Strep A infections this year. USA is reporting increasingly resistant fungal infections.

It's better not to catch viral pathogens like COVID than to catch them in the hope of gaining immunity, since there are so many different variants. Hence the herd immunity idea being a dangerous nonsense that we know isn't working in practice and instead is causing millions to get long term health issues through repeat infections. We've been failed by public health, who have completely given up on infection control or tracking infection. The tragedy is our children will bear the brunt of it.

I'm with you on not infecting others. It seems immoral to me.

But I'm doubtful of the immunity claim. I had it in March 20 and not again till now. I didn't catch anything in between-and god knows, my lungs are a mess, if anyone's are (Previously CEV). That said, I am very careful with diet, and don't eat processed rubbish, nor have for years.

And herd immunity is a stupid notion beloved of idiots in power, who wanted people to work. Any fool who knows the basics about the common cold could have worked that out.

I sure hope you're right, but from what I read the scientific evidence is mounting up, and as they say we can always ignore the science but sadly we can't avoid the consequences of ignoring the science.

You know n=1 means nothing beyond your own personal experience?

There is loads of research showing immune dysregulation following Covid-19. Eg:

www.nature.com/articles/s41590-021-01113-x

YANBU. I think we have minimised covid so we look at it as a bad cold at worst. I’ve got 3 good friends (we are in our 60s - 70s but healthy and physically active/sporty) and they’ve been felled by their latest covid infections back in March. Two have ME type fatigue and any of the usual things they’re used to doing, now exhausts them, one is breathless still and getting weird heartbeats. No one knows how they are going to be with it and after it, even if they’ve had it before and we’re ok. Imo people should stay at home if they know they have it. Hope you’re better soon

I'd believe it if it was a huge and definitive case study, taken seriously by the lancet and similar. It doesn't seem so.

😂 It's in Nature! There's endless reputable research finding similar effects. You can look yourself if you're interested. I must admit though, ignorance is more comfortable, at least until it gets personal.

Oops, excessive italics.

sure, until it's too late, if it's not already, there'll always be eliment of doubt to cling to, but with such high stakes surely it's better to be over cautious, and wrong, than under cutious and..... But hey ho, your call.

Except the ONS forgot to doctor the stats. They told us the truth that 2020 was an ordinary year, despite the Missoula’s and despite shutting down the NHS.

How many will dies from the cost of living crisis? Is death the only thing that matters to you? How many will be stressed due to the cost of living crisis and die early but not for a couple of decades.

How many children’s lives wrecked? And students? How many businesses destroyed?

Obedience to a sudden and draconian change is always dangerous. Communism kills.

*Midazolam

The lack of clarity within the NHS on Covid is done deliberately so they can exploit staff. My DD has just had a disciplinary after catching Covid on the wards, twice, because she wasn't warned before she went into the room. Even though she attended a walk in and needed antibiotics, each time she was off, they've disciplined her. But no-one will officially say that we don't want you to test and we want you in even if you are positive and have symptoms. She works on elderly heart and chest wards, lives with me and I and one of my GC are clinically vulnerable.

This is horrific. And no media coverage?

Covid doesn't care about your beliefs or your opinions or your understanding or your optimism.

Covid is a virus that transmits by airborne spread, mutates rapidly, and causes damage to every biological system in your body, with increasing risk from every reinfection.

You're doing the right thing. I'm healthy and have had all vaccines but I got Covid in the spring and it absolutely floored me. I couldn't get out of bed for two weeks and it took a good couple of months to recover properly. I still don't feel completely back to normal.
Even if I hadn't felt so unwell I still wouldn't have gone into work because I have colleagues with relatives who are still shielding, and getting Covid could quite easily kill them.

And is highly contagious. 😫
Caught it outdoors twice this year with my dc at the playground.

@GardeningIdiot you're very rude. Your attitude is making your point even less convincing to me.I'm not one of the people opposed to taking covid seriously, yet you managed to alienate even me. You are a twit.

A rude twit!! Why, thank you 🙏🏼

@Fivethirtyeight you ask "How many children’s lives wrecked? And students? How many businesses destroyed?"

Ask that question of long covid. A 1 in 10 chance per infection, given many people are getting it once a year, by the time our kids finish school there's a very strong chance they will be wrecked by continual illness. And as a result the economy suffers. We already have record levels of long term sick leave.

Move on from lockdowns, worry about infection instead.

It’s like the twilight zone on this thread. You’re all crazy. Look up the effects of the jab that they tried tu hide for 75 years. Long covid sweet Jesus are you all actually still believing this shite. Fewer deaths in 2020 than previous five years, that’s not a pandemic that’s lies they told you. You’ll cop on some day when your children’s futures are destroyed

Crawl out of your rabbit hole, why don't you?!

You are the one who's crazy. Try peddling your crap to someone who lost a loved one. Can't abide your sort!