U.K. first womb transplant

[VestaTilley]

The BBC has reported today that the first womb transplant has taken place in a hospital in England. A 40 year old woman donated her womb to her sister, hopefully enabling her to have children.

AIBU to be concerned about a potential dystopian future where women’s reproductive organs are harvested like car parts?

Journalists are treating this like it’s a positive, with few questions being asked about how the donor is recovering, how the foetus (if the recipient does conceive) will fare if the woman has to continue taking immuno suppressive drugs? Whether there is increased miscarriage risk?

Transplants are supposed to be life saving, not about wish fulfilment. Apparently 10 brain dead women are being lined up for future donation!

To me this all seems part of a bigger picture of surrogacy, synthetic embryo creation (reported earlier this year) and a drive to disassociate women from reproduction and the biology of our sex.

Am I alone in being bothered by this? I wish journalists would look more at the bigger societal picture.

Link here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66514270

Your tinfoil hat might have slipped dear

For those saying the sister should have been a surrogate instead, 1. She's 40, 2. She'd need to inject hormones which may increase health risks to her (disclaimer - maybe she had to do this anyway pre-transplant, I don't know), and 3. that's 9 months + birth recovery for her as opposed to one single surgery and recovery.

It's very different. An organ transplant is live saving. A womb transplant is lifestyle. I would not be happy with the NHS paying for these operations. A child should be a gift not a right.

Oh and you think that'll stop them? LOL!!! Maybe it's not happening much in the UK but organ trafficking is real thing. But you know us Brits "if it ain't happening here , not my problem"

It was in the news and the perpetrators were jailed. It does happen.

As I said above, they are treatments for disabilities and disfigurements. Not being able to have children is neither of those things.

This entire thread is very ‘old man shouts at clouds’

How lovely to be so naive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_trade

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/65960515

this is a true story, it's not made up.

Surely the immunosuppressant drugs also mean that the embryo/ foetus will be affected by these too?

JudgeAnderson · Today 10:36
I don’t really see this as different to any other organ transplant really

I do. Other organ transplants are to keep you from dying or going blind”

Absolutely this. We have lost sight of what the NHS was intended for. Medical needs, not wants.

With millions on waiting lists for potentially life saving treatment I imagine a great deal more good could have been done with the funds and time of 20 surgeons.

@Butritobaby this is the story. It happened in the U.K.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/23/nigerian-politician-wife-doctor-guilty-organ-trafficking-uk-ike-ekweremadu

Aren’t I allowed to post on this thread?

and this as well. Go tell the UN they have tin foil hats. Dear.

https://icat.un.org/sites/g/files/tmzbdl461/files/publications/icat_brief_tip_for_or_final.pdf

MMorales is correct.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/65960515.amp

Skin transplants?

face transplants?

hand transplant?

do you not know these exist?

Results in the Swedish case ( the first) ‘ The baby was born prematurely, almost 32 weeks into the pregnancy, after the mother developed pre-eclampsia and the baby's heart rate became abnormal.’

The baby weighed less than 4 lbs. Probably not an ideal outcome.

• ‘Survivors of premature birth may have later adverse health effects related to organs failing to achieve optimal development.
• Increased risk of cardiovascular, metabolic, and kidney diseases

During infancy, babies born premature have a higher risk of cerebral palsy, cognitive disability, and seizure disorder. ‘

The success rate ( that is, a live birth) in USA is around 55%. I can’t find any reports of the subsequent progress of the children.

Of course you are

However you weren’t the post anyone else was referencing so not sure why you felt the need to reply.

No one said you thought they were life saving only, so why comment?

but That poster isn’t incorrect? This was in the news. Organ harvesting does happen in the world. Same as all sorts of other things that may seem extreme to us.

Agree @Tinysoxx and we bet nobody has done any research in to the effects on the foetus of the woman taking immuno suppressives.

Provided both parties give informed consent and are happy with the arrangement, I can't see the ethical problem with it.

Or does bodily autonomy only apply when people do something we approve of?

But they are treatments for disabilities and disfigurements. Not being able to have children is neither of those things.

You keep ignoring this point.

WeetabixTowels · Today 10:39
Also has the NHS struck gold? I’ve been waiting fucking years for very minor surgery that I had to beg for to ensure I’m not in pain every day. But they can spend money on what is essentially an experimental surgery”

👏👏👏

Again, it’s simply stupid to think this will lead to women being snatched off the streets and their wombs ripped out.

Silly but not surprising for many on here