Drivers not following Highway code

[MikeRafone]

https://x.com/citizenuddin/status/1687092237786820608?s=46&t=6ReKAbxD2gRFwL---KRV8w

why do drivers not follow the Highway Code?

if you’re not going to update yourself regularly on Highway ide you should lose your licence to drive

You do the right thing and just let everyone else get on with being stupid or inconsiderate. You don't roll through a pedestrian crossing because pedestrians might not look or another driver might not stop

It changed in the spring this year if I recall and was very well advertised.

I don't know about you, but if I see a vehicle in front of me indicating to turn into a junction I slow down, when their brake lights come on I slow more. If there is someone crossing, or waiting to cross the junction I know the vehicle in front will have to stop, I slow or stop accordingly. Its not hard.

You are not going to be rear ended because you slow down for a pedestrian. It's utter nonsense.

And anyway, the damage to your car if someone does go into the back of you is far less than you will do to the pedestrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have I done enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but really, the mind boggles.

The Highway Code applies across the UK, with possibly a couple of differences in NI - this is not one of them - you do not run down pedestrians who are crossing a side road you want to turn into or out of.

No, but a proper pedestrian crossing is obvious. Evidently this new rule isn’t obvious, the thread is about how drivers aren’t bothering to follow it. When a car stops to allow a pedestrian to cross outside of a crossing, rightly or wrongly many s pedestrian will assume it’s safe to go.

Not at all - it's a definite change. Previously, the pedestrian had right of way if they were already crossing. Now, they have right of way if they are standing on the corner waiting to cross.

Previously drivers didn't give way to the pedestrians in the second scenario, and in my experience, despite the change in rules they still don't.

Now, they have right of way if they are standing on the corner waiting to cross.

Can you show me that bit exactly please.

You should...

...give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning.

The very important part of that being should not must.

The road is marked.

Note the two give way lines at junctions, a single and a double dotted line

I am afraid I think you're exaggerating. You sat for SEVENTEEN MINUTES waiting to turn into a side road on a busy Saturday? I don't know where you live but round here that would cause chaos and people would just drive round you and make the turn. You're saying there was not one single gap in pedestrian flow for seventeen minutes? I don't believe you.

Given that no distinction is made in that sentence between pedestrians who are waiting and ones who are already in the road, I wouldn't like to say that the 'should' here is supposed to be optoinal.

The next sentence leads with must. That you must stop if they are in the road already. Which means there's no requirement to stop if they are just waiting.

I wouldn’t stop turning in to a side road for someone to cross, I’d run the risk of being rear ended. The onus should be on the pedestrian to not step in to the road without looking.

That said, I do think middle lane hogging should incur points. It’s some of the worst sort of driving imo.

Actually I've misquoted on the second part it doesn't say must it says:

"If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way"

So the whole section is

You should: give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way

Was with all other shoulds and musts in the highway code one is advisory and the other is a rule that you must observe

I've been stopping at junctions on side roads for 30+ years and never been rear ended, because I'm using my indicators and approaching at a reasonable speed for taking potentially blind corners at

Let me get this straight:

You will put the lives of other people at risk just in case some other negligent driver dings your precious motor vehicle?

Some of the driving I witness on a daily basis makes me wonder if we should rethink how should drive.

www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/aug/17/traffic-videos-chaos-removing-signals-shared-space

I don't think many pedestrians are aware of it either- everytime I stop to let them cross they either look at me like I'm a wierdo or thank me profusely. To be fair I also tell my kids to wait until it's clear and not to assume the car will stop. It's difficult!

@BlackberrySky nope, not joking. It's the main road through town which is one lane and one way. They've done everything possible to make it so nobody can drive in town now

No traffic lights. Before the traffic lights would let pedestrians across, and stop traffic and it was perfectly safe
It was an abnormally busy day around Christmas but I had to go to the opticians. I had edged forward a bit but the car in front of me was stuck too, all the buses get stuck in it..
they've labelled it a shared space which basically means pedestrians walk without looking and car drivers can't move

Cropped but this is what they've done, it's the only road through the main part of the city
You can see the shared space/what was the pavement
So you've got people crossing across the main bit in front of you, as well as each of the side streets and you can't move as well, you can't run them over!

@enchantedsquirrelwood stop and hey rear ended or turn avoid the pedestrian and don't get rear ended

To be fair I don’t live in a city and a lot of my driving is on 40/50/60 mph roads but yes. I wouldn’t give way to a pedestrian waiting to cross the road if I was driving off one of those - it wouldn’t be safe.

Pedestrians should look before they cross.

The hierarchy has changed, the onus is now on drivers to give priority to pedestrians. It’s to make roads safer. If you have some drivers that refuse to change, imo that makes them dangerous

If you can wait to turn in to a road off a 40/50/60 road if you are turning right why is suddenly dangerous to do it turning left?

Not every year surely? Insurance is going up enough as it is without adding yet more costs!