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AIBU to want to confront DS about a suspicious substance in his bag?

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Snoopymum · 18/08/2023 15:45

I had written a loooong message which disappeared when I tried to add an image of the stuff in question. I will summarise now because I also need to get back to work or I risk being sacked... but I AM worried.

So: 21yr old DS, possibly ASD (never diagnosed) but high functioning, very turbulent as a teen, expelled from school for a few days here and there (changed schools as we searched for one that was equipped to deal with him). Depressed and medicated by age 14, he seemed to have come out of it a better adjusted. Was quite successful academically and able to go to a good uni, his first choice and Russel group. Has a long term girlfriend, and many friends with whom he seems comfortable and who seem decent people, mostly uni students but a few already working. Not so social when he's home, he spends long hours in his room on his phone or gaming, little interaction with me, DH or his siblings, joins us for meals then disappears again. I guess this is all pretty much normal behaviour for a young man his age, more or less.

But I worry about him as he's had to go through a lot and I think he gets exhausted trying to cope with our slightly chaotic home/lifestyle now he's used to having his own place. He reacts quite disproportionately when things happen without warning, his routine is disrupted etc.

Also relevant here is that we have found him lying abundantly in the past, so now I find it difficult to trust him.

However, he's been quite open about smoking weed, he knows both DH and I did at his age, so I am not judgemental but do worry about his MH, and his health in general. He tried to hide the fact he vapes, but eventually we spoke and I explained the reason why I am opposed to vaping is the lack of evidence/research/controls etc. and he knows I would really really like him to try and stop.

Now he's had a bad cough for weeks, has tested negative for COVID, and seems to not be able to shake it off. GP prescribed antibiotics and a cortisone spray but no improvement... He told me he's not smoking or vaping.

I haven't seen him showing any changes in his behaviour or appearance, no pinprick or excessively dilated pupils that might make me suspect he was high on something, but he does spend quite a bit of time "out with friends"

While he was out I went looking in his bag for any evidence of weed or vaping and instead found this little grip seal plastic bag with a chalky white powdery residue in it, didn't seem fine enough to snort (but that I wouldn't know as I haven't done it myself!). I licked a tiny bit and it was salty/unpleasant but not bitter. Had the impression that it might once have been a crushed tablet of some sort...(If you have any suggestions please enlighten me!)

And this is the question:

AIBU thinking I was justified searching his bag, given what I found, and should I talk to him about it, try to understand how heavy his use is, or should I just be ashamed for snooping/not trusting him and avoid mentioning anything openly, (also knowing that whatever I say might not have any impact on his future behaviour)

If you have made it to the end... TiA for reading and sharing your opinions.

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Snoopymum · 18/08/2023 17:26

ManateeFair · 18/08/2023 16:41

I find it incredibly weird that your response to your adult son having a cough for a few weeks was to go through his bag as if he was 10 years old.

The 'suspicious substance' you found could be anything - unlikely to be coke or speed if it didn't taste bitter, and I think GHB is usually liquid.

Just because it had a powdery, gritty residue that doesn't necessarily mean it actually contained a powder anyway - it could have been a bag with a few pills in it that have got bashed about a bit and left a residue. Loads of drugs come in pill form, obviously, and there's a trade in prescription-only drugs like Valium and Ritalin (the latter quite popular with students to keep them going through long study periods apparently).

Ultimately, I wouldn't confront him because although he is your son, he is a grown man and there's nothing you can do about it. Ditto his vaping. He's an adult.

I really don't think what I saw could have been some residue from a pill that was just 'bashed about' a bit.

My reaction wasn't to him just having a cough.. it was a reaction to weeks of unexplained coughing night and day, and him telling me that he's not causing/worsening/perpetuating it by smoking or vaping while we are going crazy trying to find a solution with private visits and exams...and because I KNOW that he has lied time and time again in the past.

To those who say he is a man, he is an adult and I should treat him as such yes he is in the name of the law, but his behaviour is that of a fairly irresponsible teen. His younger brother can organise himself better than him...He has shown no intention or initiative for what concerns a summer job, forgets his appointments, the list could go on... and I am very painfully aware that probably all these failure are due to my (our) inability to deal with his ND and parent him adequately when he WAS still a child hence I feel responsible for him... but you are right.

I will not confront him. If the motives of my behaviour cannot be understood/condoned here, I obviously have NO CHANCE he could understand/forgive the way I acted, and I cannot risk that.

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Annaishere · 18/08/2023 17:27

RampantIvy · 18/08/2023 17:15

I notice that only the "cool" mumsnetters have replied and are minimising the OP's concerns.

I didn’t know there were cool mumsnetters

Snoopymum · 18/08/2023 17:31

Lenald2512 · 18/08/2023 17:17

My gosh you’re jumping to conclusions - this has gone from you snooping to your son being a potential rapist. Jesus.

Well I am no drug expert, but a drug that is called the rape drug kind of brings you to that conclusion doesn't it? So I just wrote out what was implied... I actually don think for a minute he could be, I know him to have been always protective towards his sisters and his girlfriend. He CAN be very sweet.

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Snoopymum · 18/08/2023 17:35

Fearnecuptea · 18/08/2023 16:18

That's mental that you licked it...? Obviously a drug of some kind, really unnecessary for you to try it 😂
As per previous comments, your son is 21, I can't think of any reason where it would be acceptable to rummage through his belongings.

LOL it was the only way I could think of that would absolutely confirm it wasn't icing sugar or mint...😁

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AffIt · 18/08/2023 17:40

I'm not a 'cool MNer' (I loathe middle-class drug users), but going go through your adult child's belongings is utterly outrageous.

Also, what is all this about spending a fortune on private specialists etc for a cough - again, in an adult? It's a cough, it will probably resolve itself, if not and things look a bit more worrisome, then there are pathways.

You sound massively over-invested in your son's life and need to step back or you'll damage your relationship.

AffIt · 18/08/2023 17:40

Oh, and DON'T put your finger in bags of unknown stuff and then lick it!

Abbimae · 18/08/2023 17:41

Kids at school are using snus. White powder you rub into gums, might be that

Snoopymum · 18/08/2023 17:44

Have to leave soon, won't be able to read or respond until much later tonight. But just wanted to say thank you again to all, I guess writing it all here has clarified things in my head too. I realise I am not even overly worried about him trying stuff, if he could have an honest conversation about it with me, if it was just youthful irresponsible curiosity... but I do worry about the motives... is he trying to escape some inner hell, is he looking for excitement or oblivion, is he feeling different, wrong? Is he under some pressure by his peers, is he doing it because they all are? I wish we could talk without him thinking that he needs to lie to me... All I want is for him to be HAPPY.

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justasking111 · 18/08/2023 17:47

There's evidence @Snoopymum that vaping cannabis affects the lungs. Do the specialists he has seen know of this habit if he has?

Pedants · 18/08/2023 17:50

Whether you went though his bag or not is a red herring. How many women on here suspect dodgy behaviour by their DH and go looking, in fact are encouraged to? Whatever, it’s now been found so question is what are you going to do.

This is deeply concerning and what bothers me is you are ok with him smoking weed. Let me tell you I know a lot about smoking weed from close up experience, how addictive it is, how bad for mental health it is, and also how strong it is now compared to years ago.

NOT OK. You need way better boundaries for drugs in your house especially someone who already sounds a bit vulnerable to depression.

Pedants · 18/08/2023 17:51

AffIt · 18/08/2023 17:40

Oh, and DON'T put your finger in bags of unknown stuff and then lick it!

Also this!

Ella31 · 19/08/2023 00:18

Can't believe the amount of posters here who think doing coke is normal. Jesus christ.

AutumnalPumpkin · 19/08/2023 00:29

I mean... he's an adult, and although not the best choice, it's not really your business now. Especially if it was concealed in his bag.
I am just shocked that you LICKED it !!

Annaishere · 19/08/2023 13:25

Ella31 · 19/08/2023 00:18

Can't believe the amount of posters here who think doing coke is normal. Jesus christ.

It’s not normal but not really unusual in young people. It’s unlikely to do him any harm if he doesn’t overdose or buy cut gear

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