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Is Duolingo the best way to learn a language fast?

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Davidsdaughter · 18/08/2023 08:04

Going abroad in 6 weeks - a friend recommended Duolingo to me and I have been using the free version with adverts, and a cut off after you have made a certain number of mistakes in a day.

I am very impressed, and about to pay the full subscription, but before I do, is it really the best? Or is my ignorance of language apps impairing my judgement.

Thank you for any experience and advice

YABU - there is an even better one called....
YANBU - Duolingo is the best!

OP posts:
Achickencalledegbert · 19/08/2023 00:06

I use duolingo for welsh but had very basic welsh from school as a child. I can speak a lot of welsh now and hope to be fluent next 2 years :)

powershowerforanhour · 19/08/2023 00:50

I am the person for whom the phrase "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" was coined so the addictive gamification is useful for me.

Drawbacks

  • lack of grammar explanation
-it's easy to get sucked into point-chasing not really learning
  • I like the tortoise icon "slow down" feature for the audio, but now I'm starting to need a hare icon function. I think I'm getting good, then I try to listen to real French telly at normal pace- which is nothing like the slightly slower, carefully enunciated snippets on Duolingo- and I'm like, nope, I'm still totally shit. I want to have a hare icon to listen to the fast, contracted, "real" version of each snippet

To this end I have changed things a bit. Now I get up in the morning and do about 10 minutes of Duolingo whether I'm properly awake yet or not, just so that I've done something for the day, to keep my streak, use the earlybird double points and get the nightowl double points later. I just use the free version. Then I usually move onto a bit of Lingopie (did a week free trial recently, liked it and paid the sub. 70% off summer sale still on). I watch an episode of a cartoon ("Boj" is my new favourite character) on it with the dual subtitles and maybe a song, or a bit of a film- you can pick up where you left off. Would definitely recommend Lingopie.

In the evenings, or days I'm not work, I watch some youtube vloggers lessons when I'm doing the ironing- Comme Une Française and French With Alexa are my favourites, and I like Instagram short reels- Alexa again, or Maud. I'm sure there would be plenty of Italian equivalents.
Some time before bed I do another five minutes of Duolingo to use the nightowl points and earn the earlybird points, to keep myself on the treadmill.

JuvenileEmu · 19/08/2023 01:37

Davidsdaughter · 18/08/2023 21:54

Italian

Honestly, Duolingo is awful. Boring and prescriptive - you'll have to wade through learning how to say "my hamster has blue eyes" and not learn how to order food in a restaurant .

Try YouTube. You'll find lots of videos on basic Italian, on any subject you're interested in. And you won't waste hours of your life learning how to describe your hamster.

EBearhug · 19/08/2023 01:42

Achickencalledegbert · 19/08/2023 00:06

I use duolingo for welsh but had very basic welsh from school as a child. I can speak a lot of welsh now and hope to be fluent next 2 years :)

I've been learning Welsh in proper classes for over a decade and have given up expecting to reach fluency!

kitnkaboodle · 19/08/2023 01:56

Davidsdaughter · 18/08/2023 23:30

really? what is voi then? I've only done a day! I'm confused already 😅thank you for explaining

Voi is the plural form of you. There are three ways to say 'you' in Italian:
Tu = addressing one person informally
Lei = addressing one person informally
Voi = addressing more than one person (any level of formality)
If you're doing an Italian course that doesn't make this clear from the start then I'd suggest it's maybe not a very useful course.

I'm not a duolingo fan as it is ALL translation, and doesn't teach you to just listen to a language, as you'd do in real life, just my opinion!

cariadlet · 19/08/2023 02:15

I would prefer it if there was more explicit teaching of grammar on Duolingo (there are lessons on eg verb endings but these are few and far between) but I have a couple of bookmarked websites and a grammar handbook that I can refer to.

I understand the Duolingo rationale of learning more by osmosis, in the way that you pick up a first language.

I'm finding that I can write a sentence, look at it and often just know that I have the word order wrong. I'm starting to get a feel for how the language is constructed.

I like the way that there's a kind of spiral curriculum, with previous content revisited and integrated into new learning. That seems to go with what we know about short term memory and embedding knowledge into the long term memory.

I think that if you want specific vocabulary eg being able to order a meal and check into a hotel because you're going to use the language on holiday, then Duolingo is going to be frustrating.

But I'm using it as a stepping stone to eventually (I hope) becoming reasonably fluent.

At the moment, I'm still a real beginner but the apparent random vocab has been surprisingly useful.

Today somebody told me that this part of the country used to be much quieter but there were more people here now and more houses being built but still liked it better than the city that she used to live in. I could get the gist of what she was saying.

I could understand when someone told me that her eye hurt and she was seeing stars.

I like being able to have little random conversations. They're still ridiculously stilted but luckily people are patient and forgiving

I'm on my phone so can't scroll back but someone said about needing a hare mode on Duolingo to complement the tortoise mode.

Have you listened to the podcasts? They are on a particular theme and have a mixture of English narration and native speakers talking at what seems to be a fairly natural speed.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 19/08/2023 06:15

I saw from another thread that you’re in London, OP, so there’s this. It’s where I go & they’re great. I’m not sure if you’ll be able to fit it in before your holiday but if you can, I would.

https://www.ihlondon.com/course/italian-pre-holiday-2-day-intensive/

Italian Pre-Holiday 2-Day Intensive | Sundays - International House London

Learn Italian in London with weekend classes at IH London. We have Italian courses in London for beginners to advanced levels. Find out more now!

https://www.ihlondon.com/course/italian-pre-holiday-2-day-intensive/

DivingForLove · 19/08/2023 06:39

I’ve been told by a friend it’s worth paying for the upgrade to Duolingo with AI and chance to have conversations - he’s learning French and said it’s been a game changer!

Achickencalledegbert · 19/08/2023 07:38

EBearhug · 19/08/2023 01:42

I've been learning Welsh in proper classes for over a decade and have given up expecting to reach fluency!

I'd be happy to help if you ever want to retry :). My partner is first language welsh and I can tell a huge difference in what I say vs what he says but he does help me and I do watch welsh shows. I practice in work and out too. Again I think as I've done the basics since birth I already had the foundation. Not sure how I'd fare learning a completely new language.

GreenBurritos · 19/08/2023 08:37

I've found a lot of the vocab Duolingo teaches quite useful, animals, random body parts, items of clothing etc. But then my choice of speaking partner is currently my 3 year old niece :-)

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 19/08/2023 09:28

I'm using it at the moment to brush up on my German from gcse years (23 years ago!!) and quite surprised that I'm racing through the levels and remembering a lot more than I expected! I quite enjoy the fun element and the challenges.

Sonolanona · 20/08/2023 23:29

Do try Coffee Break Italian on Spotify /youtube.
It really is quite good... I started 3 years (sister in law is Italian) when we were all going to Italy.. Covid stopped that so I lasped but am now learning again as my baby nephew will be bilingual... and it's surprising how quickly I remembered stuff.
Coffee Break teaches you to USE the language... so if you have grasped one regular verb you can work out how to use another, and helps you think how to construct what you want to say. I listen when I'm driving or walking the dog (must look nuts when I'm talking to myself..or the dog.. in Italian!)

Snozzlemaid · 20/08/2023 23:34

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 19/08/2023 09:28

I'm using it at the moment to brush up on my German from gcse years (23 years ago!!) and quite surprised that I'm racing through the levels and remembering a lot more than I expected! I quite enjoy the fun element and the challenges.

Same here, only I took my German GCSE 35 years ago!
But still have quite a bit stored away in my brain that is now reappearing again.
I'm really enjoying it.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 21/08/2023 10:24

Sonolanona · 20/08/2023 23:29

Do try Coffee Break Italian on Spotify /youtube.
It really is quite good... I started 3 years (sister in law is Italian) when we were all going to Italy.. Covid stopped that so I lasped but am now learning again as my baby nephew will be bilingual... and it's surprising how quickly I remembered stuff.
Coffee Break teaches you to USE the language... so if you have grasped one regular verb you can work out how to use another, and helps you think how to construct what you want to say. I listen when I'm driving or walking the dog (must look nuts when I'm talking to myself..or the dog.. in Italian!)

They’re also really good at explaining things.

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