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Household contribution and mat leave pay?

76 replies

RosieG82 · 18/08/2023 08:03

Hi folks - apologies if this is in the wrong part of the forum, I’m just after some thoughts/peoples experiences.
I’m due to go on mat leave shortly and will be taking 12 months off with £900 per month of mat pay (half of my normal pay).

My partner earns enough to cover all the household costs - mortgage, bills, food, car etc and still have about £800 of savings after (not including meals out, treats etc which would be deducted from this £800).

We haven’t spoken yet about if I will contribute anything to household costs with my mat pay. I know he would be okay with paying for all costs as I’d be at home with the baby, so I’m thinking perhaps I will pay for all the baby costs, perhaps the council tax (£230 a month) and family days out, petrol for my car etc. I would like to save £200 a month and am assuming I’ll do the housework and chores, which I’m okay with.
At the moment he earns more than I do (his take home is about (£2.8k) , so we both contribute a set amount into our joint account. I currently do a lot of housework but he’s been doing our house up so I’ve cut him some slack with this.

Does the above proposal look unreasonable to you or should I be contributing more of my mat pay? I’m not expecting to be saving hundreds on mat leave and am expecting to have to tighten my belt, but I don’t want to be penniless or reliant on him for money to do things.
At the same time I don’t want him to have to pay for everything, although I know he’d be okay with it.
This is our first baby so I’d be grateful for any thoughts. Thanks xx

OP posts:
BLT24 · 20/08/2023 21:39

Put all money together (you need to add on child benefit to this) pay the bills and food and split what is left. Anything bought for the baby (outside of the food shop) is paid for 50/50, this includes family days out. Assuming you are both well and able household chores should be split 50/50, you’re looking after the baby on mat leave is equivalent to him working not less.

I do find it mind boggling that people can be in a relationship that is serious enough to have a child and haven’t already discussed and agreed how household finances will work. Personally I couldn’t marry someone who isn’t on board with 50/50. And thank god I did. Because I’ve had to give up working permanently due to ill health and my husband now pays for everything and doesn’t expect to have more just because he is working and I’m not. He also does ALL of the housework and works full time because I am not able to.

Springbaby2023 · 20/08/2023 21:46

Both times we have saved during pregnancy and then used those joint savings to essentially top up my SMP to my usual wage. Usually we just make sure we both have the same amount of disposable income left at the end of the month regardless of who is earning more, and that continues in Mat leave, but neither of us are out of pocket as we’ve saved in advance.

One thing I would say aside from the money is be very very careful about offering to do all of the housework and chores. You’re on maternity leave to raise your child, not to be a housewife! I would suggest before baby comes you look at your split of housework, ensure it’s equal ish, and then stick to that. Otherwise you will find it very hard getting DH to pick up ‘his’ chores again when you go back to work.

rwalker · 20/08/2023 21:47

Joint account for everything shared and pay in proportionally to wages

too late now but we jointly save the shortfall between normal wage and mat pay before wife started mat pay

TrustyRusty68 · 20/08/2023 21:57

It works differently for everyone but in our house, all wages go into one account, we transfer bill money to the bills account and whatever’s left is for savings if spending jointly on whatever we decide. There’s no his or my money. We’re a family & it’s a joint pot, regardless of who earns it.

Iwasafool · 20/08/2023 22:03

Been married 40 years and we don't have a joint account. He has more money coming in than me so he transfers me money to make it even, we split the bills. No desire for a joint account and the way we do money has always worked although at times I've had more money than him as he had to take early retirement due to disability so I paid more bills than him.

We both like our own money in our own accounts and it works for us.

OP he will need to pull his weight particularly in the early days when you will be recovering from pregnancy/child birth. I think once you are fit and well and if baby allows it is fair enough for you to do more housework if you aren't working but I don't think you should do it all.

There are different ways to sort out money e.g. him paying all the bills and you buying food (I think we did that when I was on maternity leave and it more or less balanced out to use having equal spending money) or paying it all into one account. Just talk to him and work out a system that suits you both, everyone has their own ways and you don't have to do the same as anyone else just because they claim their way is the right way. It's just the right way for them.

Congratulations on becoming a mum, hope you have a lovely year with baby.

AgathaMiss · 20/08/2023 22:07

bravotango · 18/08/2023 08:23

We just put everything we got into the joint account (including child benefit) and split what was left over after all the bills and a weekly allowance for food/fun - we did this before I was on mat pay and during, and it worked fine

This for me too.

You're a family with a household income, shouldn't really be his and yours money. You're about to take a hit on your earning potential for the next 5/10 years minimum - studies show women are disadvantaged by maternity leave for a lot longer than just the mat pay period.

If he is over the threshold for child benefit, look into contributing more into his pension so you can claim CB without paying it back.

Hayliebells · 20/08/2023 22:13

Don't presume you'll do all the housework and chores. Some days with a newborn it took me all day just to unload the dishwasher. You'll have just as much "work" to do as he does at work, looking after the baby. Split things evenly, or he can pick up the slack if your newborn is being particularly demanding. And split your money so you both have the same disposable income after bills are paid.

Gh12345 · 21/08/2023 07:03

Some of the replies on this thread 😂

OP that sounds good, you sound like you have a supportive partner who will cover the bills. I think like you suggest, offering to pay the council tax would be a nice gesture. Whatever works for you, see what it’s like the first month or two.

Myself and my husband had separate accounts until baby was about 7 months old - hubby suggested joint account at this stage as I kept asking for money to cover my short fall and he wanted things to feel equal.

smartiesneberhadtheanswer · 21/08/2023 07:11

Why isn't he also going PT? It makes much more sense from a tax, equity and pensions perspective for each of you to drop to four days then for you to drop to two or three.

Or just he goes part time as you'll have taken the hit of maternity?

Or share the mat leave?

Your set up sounds very unbalanced and old fashioned

caringcarer · 21/08/2023 08:04

All baby costs should be shared. It is both your baby. You just pay proportionally towards other bills from what you have left.

Solibear · 21/08/2023 09:06

So I’m going to give a slightly different perspective to most of the comments here, and I think it really depends on how you and your partner both deal with money tbh.

Even before my husband and I got married, as soon as we started living together, we set up a joint account for household costs. We would both contribute an equal amount per month to cover anything related to the house or anything we were doing/buying together e.g. date nights, and any money left over from that at the end of the month would go into a savings account to go towards holidays. However, the rest of our finances remained separate. This is because he is quite frugal, and I’m not so careful with my spending, and I didn’t want him to be looking at everything I’m spending each month from combined finances and questioning everything I’m buying while he’s trying so hard to save. This doesn’t mean the money is his money or my money though, it’s still all our money, it’s just managed separately. For example, with his savings, he’s just paid for an extension to our house (for which we have a joint mortgage) and bought a new car in my name. I have a decent amount saved myself, which he has access to, but he never touches it. He also puts a lot of money each month into a private pension, with the view that this will be combined retirement income (I have a decent chunk in my employer pension scheme but for some perspective, my husband’s is 6x that amount, and when doing his financial planning, he combines both figures and uses the total amount to calculate at what age we can both retire - he’s aiming for us to both retire early and at the same time).

That’s the background, and for additional context, when we met, we were both on pretty similar salaries - I was actually probably earning more than him because I was in a commission-based job. However, he worked for a small company and got lucky in that his company has changed hands several times over the years and with each change he’s got fairly big pay rises, so he’s now on twice as much as my full time pay, and three times as much as my now part time pay.

When we had our first baby, we agreed that I would stop contributing towards household costs, and would just cover baby costs. I bought everything we needed for the baby and saved enough to cover my maternity leave. When she was a year old, I went back to work part time, and we moved house and our mortgage and other household bills doubled. My husband still covered all of it, while I took care of childcare costs and all other child-related purchases and activities. These outgoings for me are about a third of what his outgoings are.

Currently when a child turns 3, everyone gets 15 hours of free childcare, and 30 hours if you meet certain eligibility criteria, along with the tax free childcare you can receive from any age. I fell pregnant again when our first daughter was 3, and everything I saved on childcare costs through funding I put into a separate savings account to cover my second maternity leave. I had also been saving a regular monthly amount into my main savings account, which I started diverting into my new maternity fund, and at the same time my employer announced they were increasing maternity pay to 6 months’ full pay. I’m now 4 months into that maternity leave and have more than enough saved to be able to see me through to the end. In the meantime, our mortgage rates are about to skyrocket and we’re soon going to be paying close to double what our original payments were when we moved, and when I go back to work next year, we’re going to have two sets of childcare fees to cover because even though our first will be starting school next month, we’ll still need till pay for wraparound care. This will mean that my husband’s outgoings are going to jump significantly, and I’m unlikely to be able to make any regular monthly saving until I return to work full time (which I plan to do when our second starts school). If anything, I might need to ask him for some additional support, which we’ve already spoken about and he’s fine with.

This is a very long way of saying that separate finances work for us. Neither of us has any debt, we find it easier to budget when we know exactly which costs are being covered by whom, and we’re both able to freely save or spend as much or as little as we want without question from the other. Once I go back to work full time, we’ll go back to using the joint account for all costs, with equal contributions from both, as I’ll be earning more money and childcare costs will be significantly lower.

With regards to the rest of the stuff (housework etc), we both do our share around the house. If anything, my husband probably actually does more. He does most of the cooking and washing up as well as all of the maintenance/DIY jobs. I mostly just clean and do laundry once a week or so. Being on maternity leave isn’t a holiday - it is hard work and you’re on call 24/7. There is no break/downtime. Even when you’re asleep, every squeak coming out of your baby will wake you up and have you on alert while your husband will still be sleeping soundly. If you breast feed, you can’t share feeds. If you bottle feed, no matter how many feeds your husband does, your baby will still want you for comfort more than him.

So, work your finances in whatever way you feel the most comfortable with, but you shouldn’t be taking on more stuff around the house to compensate. If anything, you may need your husband to do more, not less - especially for the first 6 months or so when baby isn’t going to be very mobile and will need a lot of attention

Wick55 · 21/08/2023 09:19

I’m due to go on Mat leave in about a month (first baby). Husband and I get paid roughly the same but my Mat pay is slightly less than half my salary so I’ll be paying half my normal amount into the joint account which covers all of our expenses, including mortgage, bills and vet bills, quite a bit of shopping etc. he will be putting in the remainder. If it helps we both put in £800 so I will put in £400 and he will put in £1200. I will probably cover petrol as I pretty much solely use the car (and it’s my car) and bits and bobs for me and the baby. We’ve split all the baby expenses 50/50 over the past months (although most of its second hand bargains).
he understands I still have a right to put away some savings and be able to spend money for activities and shouldn’t end up in debt as I am the mother.
we have a joint current account but I do think it’s important to have financial independence, I love my husband we’ve been together 8 years but we have separate savings, although we both know what each other has. I hope that helps ☺️

RosieG82 · 21/08/2023 15:52

Thanks everyone for the comments. We’ve discussed and have agreed that we’ll continue our current set up of putting a set amount into our joint account every month, but my financial contribution will be proportionate to my mat pay. Personally I don’t think it’s fair for him to pay for absolutely everything, I’ll still be bringing in some money via my mat pay, yes not my regular salary but still enough to contribute financially.
He has suggested pooling everything into our joint account and to start to build up joint savings if I feel uncomfortable/worried about money as it’s joint income, which has made me feel better.
I guess we have an old fashioned set up relationship wise but he loves his job and earns a lot more than me. I earn good money too but it’s my decision to take 12m maternity leave then go back part-time, as I want to spend that time with my baby. I’ll be going back up to full time hours once she’s in school.

OP posts:
smartiesneberhadtheanswer · 21/08/2023 16:02

@RosieG82

The thing is, he'll ALWAYS earn more than you if you do all the Mat leave and part time work. So you'll never catch up. This is the mistake many women make, they are earning less so they take the hit, but in doing this the gap gets wider as part time workers get promoted more slowly etc. and before you know it baby number 2 arrives and 'it's cheaper for you to give up work' completely.

And lo, you're financially dependent on a man.

Or, you could set the baby an amazing example by insisting he does his HALF from the start.

sarah419 · 21/08/2023 19:37

your contribution should stop at having a baby. let him pay for everything. sometimes i think feminists really screwed us up. we are still doing all the mothering and child bearing as well as income contribution. This serves only the men. if he can afford all the bills AND have leftovers, i wouldn’t even offer anything. you are at home looking after the baby on mat leave. no official contribution should be expected. he’s lucky he doesn’t have to also give you an allowance.

Elaina87 · 21/08/2023 20:18

Scottishgirl85 · 18/08/2023 08:27

You have made a human together, why on earth don't you put your money together in one pot (and get married). I am always shocked at how financially vulnerable so many women make themselves...

Marriage isn't necessary, flippin heck, it's not the 1900s. She has her own money, she isn't financially vulnerable, she's just on mat leave and he is clearly supporting her.

00100001 · 22/08/2023 10:16

she is, he earns more than her, she's taking a year+ out of her job to look after kid - if they split, he can leave her high and dry - take his half of the house, and she's screwed and will be a single parent with less than half of her income she's used to. So unless she has substantial savings in her name - she'll just have to hope and pray the partner isn't an arsehole like most men and pays decent child support - and that she can afford to live somewhere with her child.

annahay · 22/08/2023 11:20

I'm currently on mat leave and my husband and I still pay 50/50 for household bills. We pay individually for phones, car expenses etc. Husband has a debt that he is paying off. I saved up to cover the shortfall in my wages during maternity so that I can continue to pay this way when my income reduces in the next month or so.

00100001 · 22/08/2023 12:45

annahay · 22/08/2023 11:20

I'm currently on mat leave and my husband and I still pay 50/50 for household bills. We pay individually for phones, car expenses etc. Husband has a debt that he is paying off. I saved up to cover the shortfall in my wages during maternity so that I can continue to pay this way when my income reduces in the next month or so.

Really?

Why don't you have household money?

So bizarre that you're having to cover the"shortfall" because two adults decided to have a baby knowing full well one adult would have to take reduced pay so the household income would be reduced.

It's such an odd way if looking at money to me.

annahay · 22/08/2023 12:50

@00100001

We share our household expenses 50/50. The remainder of my husbands income is used to pay off his debt.

I saved to make up the shortfall because no one else would if I didn't. I didn't want to wait until after the debt was repaid before ttc, so I made it happen for us.

Codlingmoths · 22/08/2023 12:52

I have read all the ops comments, but not all the rest. I’m just here to say that you shouldn’t be planning to do everything. My first baby hit me like a ton of bricks. He never slept, and my Dh didn’t help at nights, and I will be the first to call this absolute fuckery out now) but he did cook dinner every night for the first few months. I was too tired to keep up with anything in the house.

MrsZargon · 22/08/2023 16:28

It doesn’t work for everyone, and you absolutely have to be on the same page regarding spending habits but we have always pooled all our resources I just couldn’t imagine it working any other way. I am a SAHM which was a joint decision so for a lot of years I haven’t been earning or only part time wages and in that time my DH has moved up the career ladder so earns way more than I could ever hope to get to now. I honestly don’t view it as his money, it is our money which we both spend responsibly. Both of us are free to spend our disposable income on whatever we like without consulting the other unless it is a large ticket item which we discuss first. We do a monthly financial spreadsheet so we know where we are at with Mortgage, Savings, Cash etc and jointly decide things like holiday budgets etc. At the moment things are tighter like they are for most people so both of us reduce our unnecessary spending accordingly. I find it bizarre when women say they have no money as their meagre wages have run out when the reason their wages are low is because the have taken a back seat in their career, taken time off/May leave etc or only work part time hours while their partners are sitting pretty with all the money they need, it’s just plain wrong!

NoThanksymm · 23/08/2023 05:49

I’d say if you have 900, and after household expenses he has 800, then you should contribute the first 100 to baby and fun stuff. The rest should be split equally.

so basically you are over paying. You should both be saving the same.

but I believe that in a partnership each partners time is worth equal. Regardless of how your employer and society values your time (pay discrepancies).

there are many unfortunate confounding factors that lead to women typically bring the lower paid partner (men maturing slower and tending to be the older one in the relationship, gender pay gap, traditionally female filled jobs being public service and funding always cut, women being forced into taking on greater family roles, sooo many others) but within your partnership you are NOT worth less.

Do not under value yourself. He should not be saving 800, and you 200. Partners.

or maybe you aren’t partners! But while you’re on mat leave you are taking care of that baby, and valuable. I’d stick with the equally leftover numbers.

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/08/2023 06:05

RosieG82 · 21/08/2023 15:52

Thanks everyone for the comments. We’ve discussed and have agreed that we’ll continue our current set up of putting a set amount into our joint account every month, but my financial contribution will be proportionate to my mat pay. Personally I don’t think it’s fair for him to pay for absolutely everything, I’ll still be bringing in some money via my mat pay, yes not my regular salary but still enough to contribute financially.
He has suggested pooling everything into our joint account and to start to build up joint savings if I feel uncomfortable/worried about money as it’s joint income, which has made me feel better.
I guess we have an old fashioned set up relationship wise but he loves his job and earns a lot more than me. I earn good money too but it’s my decision to take 12m maternity leave then go back part-time, as I want to spend that time with my baby. I’ll be going back up to full time hours once she’s in school.

If you've decided to contribute proportionate to your income I assume he's contributing housework proportionate to his time off.

Because that piece always seems to get forgotten. Men are no longer the sole providers and yet women still seem to be the sole house-elves and general skivvies.

Stompythedinosaur · 23/08/2023 23:12

If you are having a baby, it's time to have family money that you both have access to.

Don't make any agreements like "I will do all the housework" when you haven't experienced having a newborn. You might have an easy baby and this is feasible, or you might not, and you have no idea how you'll be yourself after the birth. Maturnity leave isn't a walk in the park and it's fairly likely your dp will need to chip in around the house.