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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think he just didn't want to live with me?

18 replies

SleeplessInNorfolk · 18/08/2023 04:54

Can't sleep. 4am. I just need some sort of confirmation I'm not going mad.

My boyfriend was always a bit of a commitment phobe and emotional nightmare. Awful past which I won't go into. Attachment issues. It also happens that he's kind and funny and I love him.

But, he's made my life pretty miserable.

He cheated on me about three years ago, for which there is a lot of unresolved pain for two reasons:

  1. He didn't really do any work to fix it. Yes, he sat for more than a year wiping away my tears and he apologised endlessly. But in a material sense he never did anything. He just sort of wanted to wait for me to feel better and wallowed in the guilt. Which I think compounded the pain of the affair. It made me feel worthless. That he didn't do the hard work.
  1. He promised me at the time that the affair had woken him up to what he what he had and he loved me and he'd commit fully with no more nonsense and we'd get a house together. Three years later I'm still waiting.

He was very happy for me to move in with him. Into his 1 bedroom flat, but not to get a house together. His main gripe being that our relationship was rocky (as they tend to be when you cheat) and if we split up he had to be able to afford the rent alone.

The key problem with this is that I have a child (17 at the time) and therefore can't live anywhere with just one bedroom. I also, frankly, had been a single Mum for 17 years and had lived month to month the entire time.

Financially speaking I couldn't afford, after my child left for uni, to continue paying rent on a two bedroom flat AND the added upkeep of university living costs and I really needed financial security of splitting rent and bills.

So what happened is that after a year of waiting, I said to my BF that when my child left for university I was leaving my flat, either to move in to a house together OR to move across the country somewhere cheaper. He begged me not to move away and asked me to live in his flat with him for a brief time whilst we found a place together.

So I agreed, and put all my belongings in storage and went to stay with him. To cut a long story short that went on for over a year with him essentially making house hunting such an ordeal that I eventually just gave up.

In the end, after a year of his nonsense, I ended up finding a house three hours away because its what I could afford by myself. I went and looked by myself, I chose it, sighened the lease and I've moved in.

But he kind of persuaded me during this process that it was OUR house. And we'd live in it at weekends and uni holidays, then live in his flat during the week. And he's moved some of his stuff in. And he built the furniture. He's looking to buy a car locally. And he's joined the cricket club.

At first I went along with this.

Then I just suddenly got incredibly angry.

Because deep down what I feel has happenned is that he's gone to extreme lengths to ensure we have two separate houses. To avoid that commitment to me. Because while it was like pulling teeth to get him to fully move in with me, he absolutely loves this concept of having two seperate houses.

He still wants to sleep together every night. In fact he can't stand being apart from me. I think it's more that he needs to feel he's okay financially if I leave him and not lumbered with an expensive larger house.

So now we have two houses. And I feel completely angry and betrayed. Like he's let me down and somehow framed it as a good thing.

If we'd shared a house I'd be well off. Now I'll struggle to survive to be honest. Forget holidays or fun things or haircuts or dentists. I'll just about be able to do it. So practically speaking I feel SO LET DOWN. Like he's whippee away my financial security.

To help, he paid off a £10,000 loan for me (which he considers a gift) to help lower my monthly Outgoings. So he has been very generous financially. It's more that I just wanted a proper shared life. And him breaking this promise makes me sad and angry and betrayed - which brings up the affair emotionally for me.

Because I think what has really happened is that he's a man who cheated on me, broke endless promises to move in together (ongoing 4 years now), and now what I wanted (to have a two income household- he earns double what I do and a proper home) is instead two seperate houses hours apart.

Am I going mad, or am I right?

It all just hit me and I nessaged him saying it was a betrayal and if he wanted two houses then he could have his autonomy until the cows come home because the relationship is over.

AIBU? Do two adults our age reasonably live like this? Or has he set completely unreasonable parameters?

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SchoolQuestionnaire · 18/08/2023 05:06

Yanbu.

It’s quite clear that be likes being with you, likes your new home with it’s cricket club etc but doesn’t want to commit properly. This would all be fine if he’d been honest and upfront and you were in agreement, but he hasn’t and you aren’t. This isn’t what you want and this man isn’t going to give you what you want. You have done the right thing in ending the relationship.

MintJulia · 18/08/2023 05:07

I assume you're in your 40s if you have a dc at university, and he is similar?

Has he been married and shared a house before, and then it all went wrong? He was left dealing with the costs of downsizing etc?

It sounds like he has what he wants - a flat he likes and can afford on his own, and you are just a convenience. He doesn't care that you want to plan a future, he's happy with the status quo, companionship, sex on tap.

Yes you are right to dump him and move on. Find someone who really wants a shared life and cares that you are happy.

HappiDaze · 18/08/2023 05:15

Just let him go

You'll get over him

GoodChat · 18/08/2023 05:17

He's wasting your time and can't give you what you want.

Surely the expense of travelling 3 hours twice a week is costing you money too?

Do you think he's worried if he gives you space you will vengefully cheat?

Can he move his work easily?

DaftyLass · 18/08/2023 05:19

I'd pay back the 10 grand and go my own way, he isn't looking for a partnership, or a combined household.

SleeplessInNorfolk · 18/08/2023 05:27

Yes both mid 40s.

Yes he was married 20 years ago and it went horribly wrong. I honestly don't care though. Not an excuse.

Yes the travelling would cost me money too, and aside from that I really don't want to do it. It's unsettling and I've been so unsettled already.

No I don't think he's worried that I'd cheat. He knows me well enough to know I'd never put anyone through the hell I went through.

I think he wants me to be happy but he doesn't really comprehend any responsibility for that. He actually hates me being UNHAPPY but he wants me to sort of magically just be so without him being required to do anything.

Or more required to do certain things. He'd do any number of ridiculous things for me. If I asked him to wake up at 5am and run here in a monkey suit, hed do it.

He just won't do the very basic things that are truly vital to my well-being. I needed this. I need a sensible shared life and some old age security.

I feel terrible. Like a horrible grief that he's robbed me of this after all he's put me through.

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DaftyLass · 18/08/2023 05:32

He isn't responsible for making you happy though

TedMullins · 18/08/2023 05:34

Why didn’t you just dump him when he cheated on you? He hasn’t robbed you of anything, you’ve been going along with it - it sounds more like you’ve suddenly realised how passive you’ve been in your own life. You could’ve put a stop to this at any point but you didn’t, so do it now. He’s never going to give you what you want, so stop letting him call all the shots and bin him.

SleeplessInNorfolk · 18/08/2023 05:39

I said from our first date six years ago what I wanted and he's been dicking me around ever since.

That makes me unhappy. And I get that I'm responsible for putting up with it for waaaaaay to long.

If he were here he'd vehemently deny he doesn't want to live with me. I actually think he believes that too.

But the histrionics he pulled to avoid getting a house together were off the charts. I left 5 or 6 times and each time he'd go and view houses and tell me he'd found one but then something would happen every time.

Work pressure
Too busy
Gazumped several times
Picking fights right before we were due to move
Illnesses- to the point of making me thunk he might be dying

Just any possible tactic

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Newnamehiwhodis · 18/08/2023 05:39

You’re not being unreasonable in your anger -
I do think, however , GOOD FOR YOU for finding your home, as in the long run, you have your own place and aren’t dependent on him.
it’s time for him to get OUT of your space, however.

he can fuck right off to his little apartment, since he couldn’t commit or follow through.

you are better off without a cheater, Op.

SleeplessInNorfolk · 18/08/2023 05:41

Why did I stay with him when he cheated?

I don't know. Because he promised me so much, which he never delivered. So I regret it now. My life would have been better if I'd just left then.

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SleeplessInNorfolk · 18/08/2023 05:46

Honestly? I think the cheating was on some level similar to the house situation.

I know deep down he was in love with me and couldn't believe his luck. I couldn't understand why he'd chuck it away for someone like he did.

Now I honestly think he was sabotaging on soke level like he is now.

This is partly why I'm fuming still that he didn't do any meaningful work after the affair as he'd promised to.

I dont think he IS a cheater. I think he's actually suffered as much as I have with self loathing. I think he was just trying to avoid commitment.

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Ladybug14 · 18/08/2023 05:48

You've put up with his delaying tactics and bullshit

You've allowed it and empowered it

He won't change.

Whatever you want from him, you won't get

So ..... its your life, live it for you

Shoxfordian · 18/08/2023 06:03

He’s not capable of making you happy - all these half promises and you’re still not living together

Lifes short op, don’t waste your time

fluffi · 18/08/2023 06:08

AIBU? Do two adults our age reasonably live like this?

Yes, if 2 adults want to live separately it does make
sense financially, as long as both parties are ok
with it.

Personally wouldn’t completely give up my home, I’ve worked hard for it and seen too many people struggle to rebuild when relationships don’t work. There is little benefit to combining a household other than saving money in short term as a relationship without any chance of children can function perfectly well from 2 homes.

But I would be completely honest about this as soon as the question came up and let person I’m saying know that combining households and incomes is unlikely to ever be on the cards and I prefer my independence.

Or has he set completely unreasonable parameters?

Given he has previously promised to move in together, more than once, committed and then backed out that is poor. It sounds like he’s used excuses to avoid conflict.

Neither of you are wrong about living arrangements, you prefer. However because you feel so strongly that combining and living together is normal I think you’ve been hoping he’ll change his mind on this (which is highly unlikely as there is no benefit for him and only increased financial risks)

YABU because you could have easily dumped before now, especially because you were not married.

And he cheated - that says a lot about his character! None of the behaviour after is really a surprise after that.

RedHelenB · 18/08/2023 06:16

DaftyLass · 18/08/2023 05:32

He isn't responsible for making you happy though

This. You want different things and I can see both viewpoints. Now you've moved area I hope you find someone to eventually share a house and life with as you want.

BibbleandSqwauk · 18/08/2023 06:17

Why can you "barely afford" this house if you deliberately chose it so it was affordable? Look, he's obviously a commitment phobe, a cheat and fast talker but he's been showing you all along that this is the case and you have chosen to ignore that and cling onto his obviously empty words. As a pp said, actually it's perfectly likely for two mature adults to live separately...I don't plan on living with my partner of several years even once my kids are grown and gone. It took too much hard work to get back on my feet after divorce and I relish my independence and self reliance. It kind of feels like you're clinging to this guy out of fear of being alone, like that's the worst thing. It's not.

Perthsmurf · 18/08/2023 06:29

YANBU but clearly you both have serious communication problems here. Expressing this all here having just sent him a text is not communicating what you want. Saying what you want on a first date but then never reinforcing that is not communicating because your actions don’t line up with your words.

YANBU- I say it again, because you need to know this- and it sounds like you have read the room completely correctly regarding this relationship, but you need to think about what you want from here. Did you ever go for couples counselling? It sounds like you need it and it sounds like he has the means to pay. If you still want to see if there’s a future then you both need to communicate, and counselling will help you with that.

if, understandably, you’re done with it then I don’t blame you. I wish you so much luck, OP x

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