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Woman from America staying at my boyfriends place

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Whenthepartysover · 17/08/2023 10:01

Me and my boyfriend have been together two years. I am 23 and he is 27. I am currently at uni in Leeds but I go to his at the weekends in Manchester.

He is a bit of an artsy type, he is a graphic designer and a freelance photographer. He writes poetry and has an Instagram account where he uploads all of his poems and short videos of spoken word. It's a bit of a community and he speaks to lots of people on the platform. He has been speaking to this woman now for a while. I didn't really have a problem with it because she lives in America and is married with 5 children. Plus I trust my boyfriend and try to be rational about things.

She told him she was taking a trip to the UK alone and he asked me if I would mind if she stayed with him so that she could save on accommodation and also have someone there who she knows and trusts. I said it was ok. I don't know why I said this.. I honestly felt ok about it at the time.

All the plans were made and he picked her up from the airport on a Sunday evening and I went back to uni. On Monday I was sat in my uni room alone studying and I text him to ask what he was up to. He said he had taken 'Claire' to the park and they were lay around on the grass. I immediately felt a rush of emotion imagining him strolling through the park with this woman. I couldn't control it I got very upset. I think it was because I was just sat there alone and he was with another woman. I trusted that he wouldn't do anything bad or disrespectful but I suddenly just felt very uncomfortable and like I was a bit of a mug. I tried not to tell him how I felt because what's done is done, she's here now. Nothing I can do. I just didn't realise that he would be out doing things with her. I thought he was just providing her a spare room to stay.

I did end up telling him how upset I was and he said "I did worry that this would happen". We ended up having an argument and I know that I am the one being unreasonable here. I said something was ok and then changed my mind once it happened. That's not his fault. I said I'd prefer it if he let her get on with things on her own. He was saying that it's unfair as she is in an unfamiliar country on her own and doesn't want to abandon her, and his mum agrees. Anyway she ended up staying in a hotel the next night.

It came to the weekend and I went to his. At this point she was in a hotel. I said I wanted to spend the weekend doing nice things together after our argument and just try to sort it out. I got to his to find an ovulation stick in his bathroom bin. Is it just me or is that weird? I don't know what is happening in her life. She may be struggling with conceiving and is being very strict with tracking. She already has 5 children though but that's none of my business. I just find it a bit rude to take an ovulation test and put it in the bin that's wide open. I would've wrapped it up and chucked it in the outside bin if I was in someone else's house. The bin doesn't have a lid. It's one of those bins you'd have in your bedroom but in the bathroom (he's a guy so never really had anything to put in it). I was a bit annoyed about it because I felt like she was taking the piss. But I tried to move past it and have a nice weekend. However he was just on his phone constantly replying to her texts while we were out. We had another argument and I have gone home to my mum's and we haven't spoken since.

I don't know where to go from here. I know this is my fault. But I really need some outside perspective on this. How would you feel? Do I even have a right to be upset? Do we just wait for her to go back home and then try and move past it or is it the end of the relationship? I'm trying to think logically and rationally without heightened feelings of jealousy in the way. But it's hard.

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Clefable · 21/08/2023 09:14

Sorry, OP Flowers It won't feel this bad for long, so just be kind to yourself x

Zonder · 21/08/2023 09:18

Sorry it came to that OP. Look after yourself.

Murrain · 21/08/2023 09:20

Whenthepartysover · 21/08/2023 09:11

It's over. I'm at my mum's because I don't want to be on my own atm I'm devastated

Honestly, OP, remind yourself of what you said up the thread about spending most weekends going places to shoot videos for his hobby and then you sitting watching tv solo for hours while he sat at his PC editing video or working on a novel he’s been writing for a decade. He sounds incredibly dull and self-absorbed.

I think Claire from the US and her ovulation stick have done you a big favour. You can spend your weekends doing things you enjoy, not hanging around waiting for Self-Absorbed Man Bun.

Best wishes.

Ladybirdg1984 · 21/08/2023 09:21

I'm so sorry for you. Heart break is awful. You may not think this now but you will get over this. Keep yourself busy and take care of yourself. You are worth so much more and you made the right decision.

dibley27 · 21/08/2023 09:23

Ahh that's tough. I'm sorry - look after yourself, give yourself some time to recover. You sound like a lovely person ❤️

FairAcre · 21/08/2023 09:49

I am so sorry but I think you have done the right thing.

Rheia1983 · 21/08/2023 09:51

Heartbreak sucks OP, I'm sorry💐

Cosyblankets · 21/08/2023 09:53

Murrain · 21/08/2023 09:20

Honestly, OP, remind yourself of what you said up the thread about spending most weekends going places to shoot videos for his hobby and then you sitting watching tv solo for hours while he sat at his PC editing video or working on a novel he’s been writing for a decade. He sounds incredibly dull and self-absorbed.

I think Claire from the US and her ovulation stick have done you a big favour. You can spend your weekends doing things you enjoy, not hanging around waiting for Self-Absorbed Man Bun.

Best wishes.

This is spot on

StartupRepair · 21/08/2023 09:58

Oh OP hope your Mum is giving you lots of care. You will look back at this in time as a lucky escape.

goinghome2022 · 21/08/2023 10:16

So sorry OP 😞 all the best recovering from this. Be gentle with yourself. Take care.

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMariaa · 21/08/2023 10:22

I know it will feel horrible now, but take it from those of us who have been there before. One day you will look back and not only be glad you broke up but wish you'd done it sooner.

The next bit is particularly tough if he's been allowed to erode your confidence and I suspect he has. Going to therefore give you the advice I should have had post breakup but I was surrounded by toxic people.

Number one. You are enough. Pretty enough, smart enough, good enough. He may have made you feel otherwise. You may even have friends who make you feel like he was right (I'd really advise dumping Amy toxic friends who imply any differently at this point, sadly they exist) it's very easy in your twenties to feel you are not good enough, but youth really does give you a wondrous glow and no matter how you felt at the time you will look back and realise you were sparkling. Don't waste the pretty!

Number two. Being single is an opportunity. As a pp said above, no more wasting your youth waiting around for him. Now you get to discover who you are. You get to pursue fun hobbies, make new friends, freedom to meet who you want when you want.

Number three. Both your ex and miss America were bad people to do this to you. I don't care how arty, rich, glamorous whatever they seem. They're human waste. Do not re-engage with either of them. Don't seek reasons, don't go back to him, don't allow them power over your inner life imagining how it is for them. Make sure you go out and about so they can't get territorial over your old stomping grounds. No power over you.

Number four. There will be a good guy. One you deserve. You need to add time and healing to it but your experience will mean if you let yourself you will be able to filter out gaslighters and narcissists well. You do have to let your intuition do this though and sometimes that means ignoring guys you find very attractive but think you can change or hidden sweetness. Love will come but probably not from the place you expect. Probably when you've got comfortable enough to stop looking, that kind of confidence is magnetic.

You will be ok. Grief is part of life and it's ok to feel. You have to start living your own life after though so you can feel the joys of life again.

T1Dmama · 21/08/2023 10:32

Oh that’s a real shame.
Why did it come to that? His lack of empathy for how you feel?

OhChacha · 21/08/2023 10:44

@Whenthepartysover has he said anything to you about the whole situation

Iwantamarshmallowman · 21/08/2023 10:52

T1Dmama · 21/08/2023 10:32

Oh that’s a real shame.
Why did it come to that? His lack of empathy for how you feel?

I don't think it's a shame at all. I'm very sorry you got hurt op but I'm really relieved that you got out. the relationship wasn't going anywhere good. take it from somone who should have left 20 years ago.

MeridianB · 21/08/2023 11:04

@Murrain is right. It's hard right now, but keep in mind how self-involved he's been.

Every moment tied up with someone who isn't right for you is a chance to miss meeting the person who is. You deserve better and soon you'll be ready to find it. Flowers

Ricochetsandwhich · 21/08/2023 11:06

I’m so sorry you’re hurting. You deserve so much better. Spend time to lick your wounds and mourn, then hold your head high and look forward to the adventures ahead. He’s an idiot and you are well rid! As others have said you are more than enough. You will find someone better suited for the long haul but enjoy being you for a while first. Sending love.

Crikeyalmighty · 21/08/2023 11:22

@Whenthepartysover I'm so sorry but any self obsessed person who really cannot see how uncomfortable that situation would make you feel isn't worth your time and attention.

sodthesodoff · 21/08/2023 11:22

I'm so sorry op Flowers

It's shit. It really is.

But I agree with everyone else here. I think it's the best thing. And one day trust me you'll look back at this and realise that.

You deserve all the happiness in the world. Let your mum look after you. Then come back bigger and brighter.

ImNotWorthy · 21/08/2023 11:35

You've done the best and right thing. I really admire how you've acknowledged and acted on your feelings, while at the same time retaining your ability to think, speak and act clearly and logically.

CandyLeBonBon · 21/08/2023 12:09

So sorry OP. Flowers

Whenthepartysover · 21/08/2023 12:15

I'm really happy that I posted on here about this because these commends really do help. To anyone who has left a comment, thank you, I appreciate it so much and I have read all of them. I didn't expect so many people to care about a stranger.

I'm not doing well, I can't eat or read or watch TV. Everything is a reminder I don't know how to come to terms with the fact that he is not in my life anymore, just like that. Will never see him again and never speak to him again I keep panicking and picking up the phone to call him to try and sort it but then I read some of the comments on here and they are helping me so thank you. I've never been through a break up before but it feels like he has died because suddenly he just... Isn't isn't in my life anymore and I don't know what to do

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Bluesky85 · 21/08/2023 12:21

@Whenthepartysover hang in there, it will get better. It’s a huge adjustment to make and right now you are probably still in shock. You will no doubt be thinking of all the good things about your relationship you will miss but in time your thoughts will become more balanced. I don’t know what actually came out of all this in the end, whether he admitted something was going on with the American, or whether he still denies it, or whether you just decided things weren’t right, or whether he ended in the end…. But you will begin to process it all in time and will able to gain some perspective. Just allow yourself time to grieve. You will have good memories that will always be there, you will have learnt more about you and what you want in a partner, and ultimately you will come out of this absolutely fine. You seem like a very kind, understanding and lovely person so anyone will be lucky to have you. Just remember that you deserve to be happy, and you have control over your life- don’t give that power to anyone else x

Olika · 21/08/2023 12:28

It is hard in the beginning especially as it's your first breakup. Just stay strong and keep reminder yourself of why it's over instead of all good bits and with time you will start feeling better. At some pint you will be able to look back as see it as a learning curve. You can do this! You are worth so much more than what you were getting in that relationship. You will with tile meet someone who is the right person for you. Flowers

nenishtart · 21/08/2023 12:33

It is a shattering feeling, but it will lessen. I'm glad you're at your mum's.

He has not behaved in a kind or loving way towards you over this. I think that in time you will find someone a lot kinder who would never put you through something so outlandish and try and make out that you are the one with the problem.

I suspect he is a shitty poet as well as a shitty boyfriend.

Whenthepartysover · 21/08/2023 12:50

I went over on Saturday but the conversation ended up about lots of other things/the relationship as a whole. Other stuff came up and I realised with all of his responses and the things he was saying that it was never going to get better. I realised that I actually don't like him making new online friends, and I understand that's my own problem and he is allowed to make friends online, I would never stop him from speaking to people. But I just said that every time he is on his phone now all I am going to be thinking is "is that Claire?" And it's just going to wind me up or play on my mind every time. It's unreasonable of me to ask him to stop being friends with someone just because I decide I don't like her after all of this. But I did just ask if it's important for him to have online friends including Claire, and he said yes. I asked if he would ever consider not speaking to them and he said no. So I said well then I don't think it's going to carry on working because along with all of the other things we have talked about and all the other issues I don't think I will be happy in this relationship anymore. He started crying and was very upset and was asking me if we can just try and see what happens, but I just left because by that point I had a headache, I was tired, I was hungry, and I was sick of going round in circles. Then yesterday I had a total meltdown. I woke up and realised what I had done and panicked. I called him and said I think it was a rushed decision and I don't want to break up but he said he had been thinking about it all night and thinks it's the right thing to do. I am embarrassed to admit that I pleaded with him a bit but he said he wouldn't change his mind.

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