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Using your own car for work?

109 replies

girlfriend44 · 16/08/2023 21:09

I don't mean driving to work, I mean using your own car as part of the job. Visiting People and Places etc as part of the Job.

Although you get paid mileage, that dosent really cover the true cost of using the car for example wear and tear?

You see alot of jobs say must drive but how many people are getting the true cost of using their car back.

Does it annoy you?

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BIossomtoes · 18/08/2023 08:57

There’s no such thing as the HMRC rate. 45p is the maximum you can be paid tax free so most organisations use it to keep things simple for payroll purposes. Every NHS trust is a separate entity and makes its own financial policies.

BungleandGeorge · 18/08/2023 13:16

Deathbyfluffy · 17/08/2023 22:43

Do you drive a Chieftain Tank?
45p per mile equals about 15MPG, so either you’re driving something terrible on fuel or your maths is way off!

If you’re driving short journeys through congested cities the mpg could easily be 15mpg

BIossomtoes · 18/08/2023 13:24

BungleandGeorge · 18/08/2023 13:16

If you’re driving short journeys through congested cities the mpg could easily be 15mpg

Under those conditions you probably wouldn’t be driving at all. Public transport would be quicker.

UsingChangeofName · 18/08/2023 14:02

BungleandGeorge · 18/08/2023 13:16

If you’re driving short journeys through congested cities the mpg could easily be 15mpg

I do all my driving on short journeys in a big city. Most of my journeys are 3 - 13 miles. (When doing a long journey, I take the other car).
I would be very concerned if not getting 30 mpg.

supersonicginandtonic · 18/08/2023 14:04

@BIossomtoes not if you're doing constant home visits it isn't

snowballsinhell · 18/08/2023 14:05

I get 45p per mile but I end up making money on that as I'm paid from my front door and my Volvo is a dream to run

I receive around £350 per month tax free in mileage

Badbudgeter · 18/08/2023 15:57

It does seem unfair that the the lowest paid workers, domestic cleaners and carers, who will tend to do multiple short journeys which are tough on your car and they probably struggle to cover costs/ maintenance at .45p. Someone who covers 100 miles a day on a motorway will be making a profit.

outdooryone · 18/08/2023 16:15

Although you get paid mileage, that dosent really cover the true cost of using the car for example wear and tear?

It depends on what car you have.
I drive a 5 year old, efficient, low tax car that cost under £10k a couple of years ago.
The 45p a mile easily covers all the running costs of fuel, insurance, servicing etc. I find most months I can easily cover the running costs and most of the car loan.
In return I get to have car to use at weekends and holidays that costs me basically nothing other than the fuel for personal use.

Samlewis96 · 21/08/2023 12:07

supersonicginandtonic · 16/08/2023 21:25

I get 45p a mile. Doesn't cover my fuel really but I knew that when I accepted the job.

Ouch What on earth are you driving that 45p a mile doesn't cover fuel.

Samlewis96 · 21/08/2023 12:11

supersonicginandtonic · 17/08/2023 12:23

It isn't always as simple as getting a cheaper car. I need a big car, a 7 seater.

I had a 7 seater car a few years back. Was still only a 1.6 engine though so didn't cost more to run than my current one

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supersonicginandtonic · 16/08/2023 21:25

I get 45p a mile. Doesn't cover my fuel really but I knew that when I accepted the job.

If 45p doesn’t cover your fuel you have a very thirsty car!

MeridaBrave · 22/08/2023 06:43

It’s set by HMRC, 45p. Take it up with the government and not your employer. It’s a real hassle accounting for the tax for paying people more. I’m a tax manager. If we pay more I always recommend a round sum annual amount which yes is taxable like salaries. We actually tell people to avoid driving and get trains buses and taxis.

HennyPenny1234 · 22/08/2023 06:51

I hope all of the people using their car for work have the correct insurance

Melony75 · 22/08/2023 07:02

When I was working in care we got 45p/mile for taking "clients" out, we were persuaded by the company it was a good deal and insurers would simply change your insurance to cover for work use.

The reality was that many insurers refused or wanted extra money for business use. There were also issues where one client got confused and opened the car door onto a bollard and another wet the seat, all at the expense of the car owner. Many refused to do it after that.

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 22/08/2023 07:22

I claim 42p per mile, when I go into the head office I claim about £60 from the company in mileage allowance, and it costs me about £15 in fuel, so the remaining £45 is for the likes of wear and tear, insurance, depreciation etc.

supersonicginandtonic · 22/08/2023 17:16

It doesn't cover fuel, the extra insurance, the wear and tear etc. it's also short, city journeys I do in stop and start traffic and I have a diesel engined, big car .

Poblano · 22/08/2023 19:49

My car costs around 12p-15p per mile, depending on roads and traffic.

Business use insurance doesn't cost me any extra.

I get 45p per mile plus 5p for each passenger.

This more than covers the wear and tear to my car.

Creamteasandbumblebees · 23/08/2023 13:38

Our team have stopped using their vehicles for work purposes until the mileage rate is increased.
I won't use my car anymore when I realised that in one year I drove nearly 4000 miles for work related journeys and they don't pay me for the depreciation of my vehicle.

BarbaraofSeville · 23/08/2023 14:12

But they do pay towards the minimal depreciation that 4000 miles would cause.

4000 miles equals about £1200 a year over and above fuel towards the cost of your car. I'd see that as a much appreciated nice little earner.

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2023 16:41

Creamteasandbumblebees · 23/08/2023 13:38

Our team have stopped using their vehicles for work purposes until the mileage rate is increased.
I won't use my car anymore when I realised that in one year I drove nearly 4000 miles for work related journeys and they don't pay me for the depreciation of my vehicle.

If they’re getting 45p a mile they’re idiots. 4000 miles is £1800, if that doesn’t cover all the expenses and then some I dread to think what you’re driving.

UsingChangeofName · 23/08/2023 16:49

Agree with the last 2 posts.

I don't think your team have done their maths very well @Creamteasandbumblebees

woodhill · 23/08/2023 16:51

Also it costs more to insure your car to use it for business rather than just commuting

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2023 16:52

woodhill · 23/08/2023 16:51

Also it costs more to insure your car to use it for business rather than just commuting

Very little. It cost me about a tenner for the year.

marshmallowfinder · 23/08/2023 16:54

rwalker · 16/08/2023 21:17

There used to be a higher and lower rate think 25P/43p
this was deemed the correct cost by various motoring organisations
tbh I’ve just been to Asda 6 mile round trip don’t think that’s cost me anywhere near £3 to get there and back

Obviously there's so much to take into account, not just petrol. Tyres, insurance, servicing, mot, depreciation...