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Vitamin D and the lack of it

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Baclstreetsbackohyeah · 09/08/2023 12:14

After years of being ok, I again found myself in spiral of bad moods, sleeping all hours of day, feeling useless, brain fog, googling how to leave DH because he deserves better, suicidal thoughts, crying, anxiety and panic attacks. Honeatly, looking back to two weeks ago, it scares me. It sneaked up on me, yet hit me by surprise. Syarted with cold, low moods sneak, but all the "bad thoughts" came up suddenly.

Then I remembered in a moment of some clarity that I didn't take any vitamin D except the one in multivitamins, for some months.
It took 2 days of high dose for most of it to dissappear. Took week to me being back to gym, happy, bouncy, cleaned whole house, could write a novel type of motivation, with no inclination to suicide.

I spoke to a friend and talked about my previous deficiency. I went to a GP and he was amazing. He ordered full blood tests, I guess because I had no previous MH issue history an et voila. Accute vit D deficiency. So agreed to try sorting that before going further and trying anti depressants. Magic.
Friend had similar, but in her case she was told they should app her MH meds and she had to demand blood tests. She still takes medicine for her MH but she also had deficiency and said the supplements helped massively and she isn't having panic attacks anymore.

We ended uptalking about how sometimes, or maybe actually often, there is a lack of a holistic approach and checking not only mental, but also physical state, and vice versa.

It's actually quite fascinating what one deficiency can do.

Aibu to wonder if most people did have blood tests done as part of assessment when they presented with MH issues? From what I gather from people around me it's not always, or even often, done? Should it?

Pleae note, before anyone starts, I am not saying MH issues are just caused by that. I am not an idiot. I am wondering if some issues could be helped bit more by overal body and mind approach, not just one or the other, approach. I hope that makes sense

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Buttons0522 · 09/08/2023 19:53

I’m glad I’ve seen this post! Have requested bloods via my GP as I was ticking a lot of boxes for under active thyroid when researching online, many which echo what you’ve listed above. Haven’t actually spoken to a doctor, only the receptionist 🙈 so this is really useful to know

itsmylife7 · 09/08/2023 19:54

Children should also be taking vit D regularly.

NannyGythaOgg · 09/08/2023 19:59

I take these Vitamin D3.
And
these Vitamin K2. To maximise utilisation of the D3.
I also take
these Magnesium
What are the benefits of taking magnesium glycinate?

  • It may boost memory. ...
  • It may help with blood pressure. ...
  • It may help with blood sugar levels. ...
  • It may help with bone health. ...
  • It may help with headaches and migraines. ...
  • It may help with leg cramps. ...
  • It may help with PMS.
I got this initially for restless legs syndrome but have found it helps with other issues too.

I take other supplements too but these are the ones I prioritise.

lupinlass · 09/08/2023 20:07

Vit D should be taken in soft gels - it is a fat soluble vitamin. It needs k2 taken at the same time. And magnesium glycinate.

K2 directs vitamin D to the bones and magnesium keeps it there.

Lots of regular supermarket supplements are full of fillers (the white, chalky tablets)

Join vitamin D wellness facebook group if you want to know more.

Baclstreetsbackohyeah · 09/08/2023 20:14

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 09/08/2023 19:42

I'm a mental health nurse and certainly in the trust I work in, when a patient is admitted to our ward, we take bloods abd send them off, for many things but vitamin d is included in that test.

Do you fond lots of people with deficiencies or not really? Not just vit d

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SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 09/08/2023 21:31

Baclstreetsbackohyeah · 09/08/2023 20:14

Do you fond lots of people with deficiencies or not really? Not just vit d

We do find some deficiencies, the main one being iron, in women of childbearing age. Low vitamin D levels, yes, most aren't at a low enough level to warrant treatment though (according to guidelines). Some folate deficiencies. The odd B12 deficiency.

High strength vitamins don't tend to be prescribed though unless there is a severe deficiency. We do generally always prescribe thiamine (vitamin B1), and pabrinex (vits B1, B2 & B6) for alcoholics/very heavy drinkers and iron/folic acid for either of those deficiencies.

Bonfire23 · 09/08/2023 21:47

My level was 9 and I had bad shin pain
TBH apart from that I haven't noticed any difference. I take 4000IU a day now with a multivitamin alongside it

lanthanum · 09/08/2023 21:54

My vitamin D got very low - a little while after DD started going to school on her own - and I stopped spending 25 minutes outside twice a day! There should be a health warning when you stop doing the school run...

TrickyD · 10/08/2023 09:21

Sorry, I am confused now! I thought the thread was about D12 deficiency, but a couple of posters talked about B12.

So, D or B or both?

Lellochip · 10/08/2023 09:44

TrickyD · 10/08/2023 09:21

Sorry, I am confused now! I thought the thread was about D12 deficiency, but a couple of posters talked about B12.

So, D or B or both?

Thread was about vitamin D, but there's a few that can cause similar symptoms, b12 is one. Low b12/folate/iron are all related to anaemia so can also be behind fatigue/aches/brain fog-type things.

Mot people in the UK will be low on D and should be supplementing anyway, but always worth having the others checked if you're feeling bad. I'm not sure if there's a connection between them all as D is from sun exposure and the rest absorbed from food but I'm always low on all of them.

TrickyD · 10/08/2023 09:48

Thank you Lellochip. I’ll take both to be on the safe side.

Lellochip · 10/08/2023 10:21

TrickyD · 10/08/2023 09:48

Thank you Lellochip. I’ll take both to be on the safe side.

Unless you're vegan, any normal diet should give you enough b12. If you're low on that there might be a medical cause that needs investigating. I'd take D for now, and if you still feel something is off then it might be worth seeing if you can get your GP to check bloods. Once you supplement b12 your blood test results are unreliable.

TrickyD · 10/08/2023 16:58

Lellochip thank you again. I’m not vegan but I am vegetarian. I will take D and see how it goes.

Baclstreetsbackohyeah · 10/08/2023 17:30

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 09/08/2023 21:31

We do find some deficiencies, the main one being iron, in women of childbearing age. Low vitamin D levels, yes, most aren't at a low enough level to warrant treatment though (according to guidelines). Some folate deficiencies. The odd B12 deficiency.

High strength vitamins don't tend to be prescribed though unless there is a severe deficiency. We do generally always prescribe thiamine (vitamin B1), and pabrinex (vits B1, B2 & B6) for alcoholics/very heavy drinkers and iron/folic acid for either of those deficiencies.

Thanks! That's interesting!

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JemimaTab · 10/08/2023 17:41

I had Vit D deficiency a few years back, but it was only picked up from some blood tests I had prior to an (unrelated) operation. As others have said, it’s pretty common in the UK - we can only get Vit D from the sun for 6 months of the year.
Apparently your Vit D needs also vary quite a bit depending on age and weight.
It is possible to get a private test done via NHS labs in the Midlands for about £30. They send you a kit, you take a pin prick blood sample and send it off, then you get the results by email. It’s an option if you can’t get a test via your GP.
Theres also an app called “dminder” (free) which I’ve found quite helpful for keeping track of Vit D levels.
https://www.vitamindtest.org.uk/

Vitamin D Testing Service to the public from our NHS laboratory

VItamin D testing to the public. Our NHS laboratories in Birmingham have offered a public service since 2011 to the UK and the world. Our self-test kits are used extensively in R&D.

https://www.vitamindtest.org.uk/

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