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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To have said this to cousin?

18 replies

TheCousinsContact · 08/08/2023 10:23

Because every other family member thinks I’m UR.

Both my cousin and I are single parents. She has 2 DC and I have 1.

She tried to prevent her Ex having contact, accused him of all sorts in court, all proven to be lies. CAO in place for them, shared residency, but as he lives an hour away from her, he has them every other weekend Friday after school until Sunday evening and 50% of the holidays running Friday to Friday.

He attends all parents evenings, all school shows and concerts, pays for them to each do an out of school activity on top of above CMS maintenance – the girl does dance and he pays for all the extras for that; costumes, leotards etc. He even buys my cousins ticket to the shows. He pays enough maintenance that she doesn’t have to work at all, she tells me this and just does a bit of hairdressing on the side about 4 times a year (she has 1 or 2 clients and isn’t taking on new ones she sees them maybe every 12-18 weeks each that’s it)

She does everything she can to stop him seeing them. Everythings a drama, they have a slight sniffle “oh Toms* to sick to go and Sophie won’t go without her brother so I’ll keep them with me this weekend” makes a big drama about them going, has a special tea on Thursday night before they go, cries with them, saying they don’t want to go counts down to when she sees them again etc. They’re 12 and 10 both have phones, they both ring her every night they’re away. She will also take photos off her Ex’s Social Media and claims “they’re not happy can you tell they’re unhappy, they didn’t want to go”. She literally does everything to ignore them, and claims her ex is this horrible man who never wanted DC (well even if that’s true he’s clearly stepped up now), also often claims their too young for 50/50 in the holidays.

She’s been known to try and invite herself on their holidays with their dad, and gets upset if the boy (12yo) decides to go to his dads early or stay an extra night in the holidays – claims the dad is poisoning the kids against her.

She’s also taken him back to court 4 times over the years wanting to reduce contact and each time the judge has stuck to whats planned.

Now I’m not saying it’s all fun and games while they’re away or that they don’t miss their mum – my own DD (aged 9) always pushes against going to her dads, and my Ex doesn’t even have half the amount of time with DD in our CAO – once a month for 2 nights that’s it. But I am jolly about it, yes I miss her when she’s away, but I know she’s safe, happy and will be having a whale of a time with her cousins and grandparents. She hates change over day but is fine once there and doesn’t want to come home again but I don’t think she’s being poisoned against me I just think she’s having fun and doesn’t want to leave.

I have spoken to these children a number of times and they love going to their dads, they don’t like change over day but once there and settled they’re happy. They have a step mum and a stepsister who they both like, the boy claims that the SM is a good cook and always makes the vegetables they’ll eat etc. They’ve been in this set up since they where 6 and 4 so it’s nothing new.

This came about because cousin posted on Facebook yet again on Thursday that her kids where clingy and crying about going to their dads and how they’re to young to go away for 2 weeks especially as dads taking them abroad. I commented that how is it any different to her taking them abroad for 2-3 weeks at a time away from their dad, does he not miss them and I’m sure they’ll be fine once there. I also said it’s part of not being with your childrens other parent, and while it’s sad to be separated neither parent owns the children and both have a right to regular contact.

I’m not being told by other family members it was uncalled for, the kids are clearly unhappy but won’t voice it and she’s trying to reduce contact via the courts again. Apparently I don’t understand as I don’t love my DD in the same way she loves her DC, and I wouldn’t be ok with this level of contact if I did – this is because I’d happily let DD go EOWend to her dads and for 1-2 weeks in the holidays but he doesn’t want more than he has – but apparently that means I don’t love my DD at all. I'd understand if I loved her and didn't want to be away from her at all.

For added context cousins Ex cheated on her which is again sad but she’s taking her hurt out on the DC, the dad isn’t with OW he’s with another woman who seems decent. The DC like going to their dads as I said and say they do see him without their SM or SS.

I stand by what I said, it’s cruel to keep trying to make out the kids are unhappy, they clearly aren’t. Like I said it’s natural to miss each other but being dramatic and crying over it does no-one any good.

AIBU?

*not real names

OP posts:
crazeekat · 08/08/2023 10:56

you are correct, your cousin is
messing with her kids heads and should be called out for it. she's obv got issues she's not dealt with and is obsessed with the ex.
good for you for saying it like it is. wish all dads were this good as what that dad is, there would be a lot less fuxked up kids in the world. your cousin is a total twat and so glad the courts are finally seeing through woman like this. they cause hell for their kids who just want to see everyone happy. good for u.

forrestgreen · 08/08/2023 11:06

No she's wrong. I'd be tempted to take screenshots and send them to him. And tell him to push for parental alienation. That'll shut her up

Zanatdy · 08/08/2023 11:06

Parent alienation, good for you standing up to her. People like her drive me potty

Fraaahnces · 08/08/2023 11:14

The only unreasonable thing was expecting your cousin to listen, because she’s a toxic, manipulative parent. She was very nasty saying that you don’t love your kid. That was uncalled for. I’d give her the swerve.

TheCousinsContact · 08/08/2023 15:52

I won't send it to the Ex because I don't think that helps the DC.

She's also always reluctant to send them on school trips especially overnight. 12yo missed his year 6 residential for example.

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 08/08/2023 15:57

I agree with you but I don’t think commenting on her Facebook is the most effective way to talk to her about it- just asking for drama really

Cloudsandrainnotsunandsand · 08/08/2023 16:01

Well she might as well enjoy them while she can. 2 or 3 years time those dc will be voting with their feet. Imo by the time the youngest is in secondary they will both be at his full time...

Cherrysoup · 08/08/2023 16:03

I think you need to tell her parental alienation is not on, she’s spoiling their relationship with their dad, which has nothing to do with her. Be discreet, not in front of the kids. Putting it on fb was uncalled for.

TakenRoot · 08/08/2023 16:16

She is obviously wildly unreasonable and not acting in the best interests of her kids.

But challenging her in a Fb post is crass and counter productive.

You have missed your chance now to talk to her calmly and in private.

Instead you have a Jeremy Kyle standard handbag slinging family feud where no one will listen to you. That’s what Facebook does.

BlackOps · 08/08/2023 16:36

I'm clearly in a tiny minority by thinking that it's none of your business

KrisAkabusi · 08/08/2023 16:51

Did you say it to her face or post it on facebook? Because if it was on Facebook it's very out of order to criticise someone in public like that.

Nothingfallingdowntoday · 08/08/2023 17:04

Thank you for calling her out on this.

Nothingfallingdowntoday · 08/08/2023 17:06

But would have been better to not deal with it on FB.

Holly60 · 08/08/2023 17:11

Well done OP you are right. She is being massively unfair on her poor children

LaurieFairyCake · 08/08/2023 17:16

Your family are right OP, you DON'T love your children in the same way

I assume you love your children in a normal, healthy way rather than a ridiculously over attached drama queen obsessive way 🤷‍♀️

She's. A. Twat

Spirallingdownwards · 08/08/2023 17:25

Her kids will know though and they will end up resenting her.

Inkpotlover · 08/08/2023 17:33

I wonder how many times she'll go before family court before a judge starts calling it parental alienation. Hurt though she clearly is by his affair, she's playing a very foolish game trying to weaponise their DC against their dad.

Cakeandcardio · 08/08/2023 17:57

Someone I know was like that with their child's father. Now the child lives with their father full time and sees mum for a couple of hours a week. She needs to be very careful.

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