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Will I be reported to SS for using a foodbank?

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Fivetosurvive · 07/08/2023 14:25

I have just lost my job during the worst year I think I’ve ever had, DS starts school in September and I’m worried about them prejudging us before even starting. Will they know?

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Fivetosurvive · 07/08/2023 15:49

WunWun · 07/08/2023 15:12

Yeah it is very worrying that the OP has taken that as fact when it's very much not.

I'm my experience you can hammer down the doors of "social services" asking for help and they might make a cursory phone call to you a year later to ask what you wanted after your child has been getting free school meals for four years.

Flagging that you need extra support from SS is absolutely not a thing.

Sorry what have I taken as fact?

OP posts:
Fivetosurvive · 07/08/2023 15:52

I’ve just had a look at what’s available. There are no uniform grants in our area but I have applied for council tax support in the short term.
Thankfully had a head start on uniform so it’s only a few bits left to get.
I keep thinking things Will get better but the last year or so has just gone from bad to worse.

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GuinnessBird · 07/08/2023 15:54

Badbudgeter · 07/08/2023 14:34

Possibly. I think reported is the wrong word, it might be noted that you need extra support.

Wont you be getting free school meals/ pupil premium in September if you are not working? That also flags up that the child may need extra support. I don’t think it’s a bad thing or a reflection on you.

I work for my LA and we have funds to help people who are struggling. Often used for energy bills as the level of support needed can be measured. It’s not terribly well advertised but have a look on their website and see if you can find a welfare fund or fiscal fund application. Also see if you can apply for a school uniform grant. This is £120 in my LA; every little helps.

I'm sorry but you are talking out of your arse.

What about families who access two year funding? Contrary to popular belief 99% of those families are not known to SS. If you believe that all of those families are reported to SS or flagged up within the LA you are living in another universe.

WunWun · 07/08/2023 16:28

Fivetosurvive · 07/08/2023 15:49

Sorry what have I taken as fact?

Sorry I was just referring to you thanking the poster that posted the bullshit. My comment should have been more that it's worrying that someone could take that nonsense as fact.

WunWun · 07/08/2023 16:29

Our primary school sells second hand uniform for donations only, so you can give what you like. Could you contact yours and see if they do anything like that?

lanthanum · 07/08/2023 17:06

Qualifying for free school meals DOES mean that a child is flagged within the school (which may be what badbudgeter meant), but NOT that they are referred to social services. The school actually receives additional funding for each such child, called pupil premium. That's why you should apply even if your child is KS1 and getting free meals anyway - why turn away £1455 for your child's school?! Yes, there will be a marker on your child's school record if they qualify for pupil premium, but it should be confidential.

Statistically, children in this category do not do as well at school; that's definitely not the case for each individual child, but it's a rough-and-ready way of diverting funds to schools that might need a bit more. There will be some "pupil premium" kids who are doing just fine with no intervention, and there will be some kids who don't qualify for the label who do need some support. Teachers are well aware of that. Hopefully those groups balance each other out reasonably well so that schools get roughly the "right" amount of extra funding.

Schools are measured (amongst many things) on whether pupil premium kids (on average) are falling behind the others - that's not any reflection on individual kids, but just to try and check whether the school is doing enough to support all children in making progress.

The pupil premium label can sometimes mean things like free places on trips, vouchers for food in holidays, access to holiday activities, etc, so there's sometimes a direct benefit for the individual child.

ThinkingAgainAndAgain · 07/08/2023 17:17

OP, uniform grants are different to what a local organisation or charity can provide for you if you’re referred. Many thousands of families are referred all year round for items that grants aren’t available for. Please speak to any of the referrers I mentioned in my post above if you’re struggling and be honest about what you need. They won’t judge you. They’re there to help.

Doggytastic · 07/08/2023 17:28

No! You most definitely won’t be reported. I hope things look up for you soon.

cansu · 07/08/2023 17:34

No you won't be flagged up. Being poor is not a criteria for social care support. Please don't worry that the school or anyone else would judge you. Make sure you register for FSM. There are many kids in my class who get FSM. It is sadly part of the current situation that families are struggling.

HaveHadKenough · 07/08/2023 18:31

Badbudgeter · 07/08/2023 14:34

Possibly. I think reported is the wrong word, it might be noted that you need extra support.

Wont you be getting free school meals/ pupil premium in September if you are not working? That also flags up that the child may need extra support. I don’t think it’s a bad thing or a reflection on you.

I work for my LA and we have funds to help people who are struggling. Often used for energy bills as the level of support needed can be measured. It’s not terribly well advertised but have a look on their website and see if you can find a welfare fund or fiscal fund application. Also see if you can apply for a school uniform grant. This is £120 in my LA; every little helps.

I know what you mean, sometimes schools are used to pass on information about local authority funds only accessible with certain criteria, pupil premium can be one, it happens like that here too.

HariboFantastics · 07/08/2023 18:36

No lovely, you won’t. To me, pupil premium is no different to free school meals for children in nursery. My son recieved 30 funded hours, free hot dinners at preschool and we also received food vouchers for every half term. I was never once reported or flagged for needing extra support. You’re doing what you need to do for your child right now and if that’s food banks, then it is. It’s better than them being unfed and it’s what they’re there for.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 07/08/2023 18:40

Nothing really to add except for a “good luck” you find something good soon work-wise!

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