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To call a company that turned me down?

64 replies

Eyesonthesize · 03/08/2023 12:41

There was my perfect job. Increase in salary. I could DO the job. And we need the extra money badly - we are running out of savings as more is going out than coming in.

I spent so long researching, I read everything that the CEO and directors have ever said about anything. I did about 5 drafts of the cover letter. II have never tried harder for a job.

Turned down without an interview. It was a really well paid job for what they were looking for - as they said they've been surprised at the huge number of quality applications - but i wasn't as it was v well paid for the job and sector.

I was fully imagining my job there. My commute, what I would do there. I keep daydreaming about receiving a email inviting me to interview and letting myself imagine myself doing the job.

That sounds crazy right. I just nearly called the company to ask them to re-consider - that's a stupid idea right?

Can someone give me some stern words and help me get a grip.

OP posts:
tenbob · 03/08/2023 15:38

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 03/08/2023 14:58

They sound dreadful.

Oh they really are.

In mine and DHs collective 40th years of corporate life, a very disproportionate number of issues have involved people working in HR - workplace affairs, terrible behaviour at Christmas parties, sharing office gossip etc

There is a reason the nickname for the department is ‘human remains’

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 03/08/2023 15:46

tenbob · 03/08/2023 15:38

Oh they really are.

In mine and DHs collective 40th years of corporate life, a very disproportionate number of issues have involved people working in HR - workplace affairs, terrible behaviour at Christmas parties, sharing office gossip etc

There is a reason the nickname for the department is ‘human remains’

Indeed. I have known many crap HR people. But I have known some very good ones too. They aren't all awful.

Haven't heard the term "Human Remains" for years...I remember my dad used to say that!

Eyesonthesize · 03/08/2023 15:47

I did meet all the essential and desirable criteria and gave examples of each. But not all experience is equal I guess. So one of them was rebuilding websites which I've done loads of but maybe some people have led the rebuild of some big corporates whereas I've only done small companies

I haven't called them. My dignity can't take it. I did reply saying I was disappointed and thank you for taking the time to read my application and pls keep my details on record.

Worse than bloody dating! This feels worse than any rejection from a bloke.

OP posts:
MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 03/08/2023 15:58

Never mind, OP. It is tough being rejected when you think you've found the right job for you and imagined yourself in it etc, but hopefully something even better will come along soon.

OnGoldenPond · 03/08/2023 20:25

Sunshineclouds11 · 03/08/2023 12:50

The job most likely went to someone who was already lined up for it internally.
They legally still have to advertise.

I wouldn't ring/email them if you never got an interview.

No a company has no legal obligation to go through an external recruitment process for any vacancy. They can just offer it to their mate if they want (and often do!).

Even the large public sector organisation I work for doesn't advertise all of their vacancies externally, though they do at the least do an internal recruitment process.

Barrell · 03/08/2023 20:31

Whadda · 03/08/2023 13:07

They legally still have to advertise.

No, they don’t.

It’s such a myth. It’s up there with “employers can’t provide a bad reference” - er, yes they can, if it’s accurate.

drpet49 · 03/08/2023 20:32

JenWillsiam · 03/08/2023 12:48

If you didn’t even get called for an interview it’s a very stupid idea. You weren’t even close. They will think you’re beyond weird.

This. Sorry to be blunt but you couldn’t even get an interview OP. That’s pretty bad.

OnGoldenPond · 03/08/2023 21:00

Playingchesswithpigeons · 03/08/2023 13:38

My understanding under Equal ops is that ALL applications that meet ALL the essential criteria are called for interview. As an employer, they have now met the lawful requirement of giving the opportunity to everyone capable equally )
As much as you researched & as much as you tried, you clearly did not meet ALL of the essential criteria.
You could only contact them on the basis you missed an essential criteria and then ask if the applicants interviewed were not successful, you could be considered for an interview.

The only requirement under the Equality Act 2010 is that a recruiter must not discriminate against a candidate based on a protected characteristic. Not doing an external recruitment process or giving the job to your mate is not unlawful discrimination.

Public sector organisations often have rules on doing an impartial external recruitment process but this is because they are publicly funded so it would be politically unacceptable for them to be seen to be offering vacancies only to people they know. Not a legal requirement though.

VictoriaVenkman · 04/08/2023 07:04

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 03/08/2023 14:58

They sound dreadful.

I used to be HR, no decent HR professional would gossip.

Doingmybest12 · 04/08/2023 07:26

I wasn't short listed once by a recruitment agency ,and I felt strongly I met all the requirements. I rang to check and they said they'd overlooked a basic thing in my application, I was interviewed and got the job. So I think it is worth following up sometimes if you are confident there might have been an error.

CaputDraconis · 04/08/2023 08:24

I had this yesterday but on the other end. Didn't shortlist an applicant for interview and got an email asking why. Company policy is only to provide feedback after interview so they got a response to that effect. It just looks beggy and weird. You didn't make the cut, tough shit.

L1ttledrummergirl · 04/08/2023 08:33

If it's any consolation, I was interviewed for a civil service job and added to the wait list in case the role came up again.

I was invited to apply for a similar role in the same department, so tweaked my application to meet the criteria for the new application and wasn't invited to interview.

Although this job was something close to my heart, practically it wouldn't have worked as well in my life as the job I accepted elsewhere. I would have been a brilliant asset, ultimately it's their loss, not mine.

TheWayoftheLeaf · 04/08/2023 13:57

I'd just email and ask for feedback tbh.

fridaynight1 · 04/08/2023 14:19

I’m going against the general consensus here.

Slightly different circumstances but DH applied for a job through an agency. He wasn’t put forward for an interview, the agency said he didn’t meet the required criteria for the role. DH knew that was rubbish - he had 20 years experience working in the same role for 2 major competitors. Think Asda/Tesco/Sainsburys.
He called the company direct, spoke to the MD who invited him in for an interview. He was offered the job there and then.

I would absolutely ring them. You have nothing to lose.

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