Its fine to save money letting women die in child birth this year, as long as we are going to spend money preventing other women die in child birth in other years.

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We have been culpable in contributing to horrendous poverty and conflict in so many areas of the globe, through political interference in the past, and climate damage now, so it is right and proper that we think long and hard about supporting pregnant women abroad in the future, and as long as we promise to continue thinking long and hard, it is fine for a few thousand to die in child birth while we think, after all, they are a long way away, and their English isn't very good.

And if they don't fancy their chances of survival in their home countries, there is always an easy road and a warm welcome waiting for them here! And a mere quarter of a million unsafe abortions? That is nothing to concern ourselves about.

YANBU - it is fine, we need to save money, and a few thousand deaths in childbirth is nothing in the grand scheme of things
YABU - we should support these women through overseas aid today, even if their English isn't very good....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66378364

This. We also stopped wife burning in India, and were the first country to ban slavery. Britain has done a huge amount for the world.

We can’t fund the world’s healthcare.

(We should also stop taxpayer funded sex changes and other surgery that isn’t medically necessary 🤢)

The £15 vouchers given to cover lunches per week are enough to cover every meal once economies of scale are applied. Take single parent family with 4 children that £60 plus £20 from the household budget ( for parent) gives £80 which will cover a weeks full of three meals a day.
Shows how badly the budget is managed in schools.

Due to the cost of living crisis, I don’t believe that even shopping at Lidl or Aldi will feed a family of six on only £80 a week!

Also, you are making a rookie error by assuming that the £15/week per child voucher = the cost to the schools to feed a child per week. Hint, it doesn’t. They set the voucher amount completely independently from what they’d spend internally.

I know the cost to the school is not £15 a week but the cost for non fsm kids is £3 a day. And yes you can feed a family on £80 you are not living in the real world if you don't realise that is a very normal budget.

Also where did you get six from I said a family of one adult and four children. Two primary age children would eat the same as a man so assuming a single mum with children age 4,6,8, 12 for example then £80 is a very normal budget.

You didn’t say it like you knew because your rationale for the schools wasting money was the fact the voucher is £15 and “once economies of scale” are applied that covers more than 5 lunches. This rationale would only work if you think that the schools spend £15 for 5 lunches - when they do not spend nearly that much. They also have access to much greater economies of scale than does a single family, so that £15 would go further if it were applied to lunches made in school.

I do live “in the real world”. I just paid my DD’s grocery shop for the week at Lidl and it was £29 for just her, a young adult who cooks from scratch and does things like roasts a whole chicken because it’s cheaper than buying two packs chicken breasts, and grates broccoli stems to add to rice. You thinking one can still feed two adults and four children on £80/week is sadly out of date.

Sorry missed the single parent bit.

We can’t even afford to pay our bloody debts in this country. Have you looked around? Everything is falling apart and what’s left is held together by threads. Those who are wealthy are abandoning ship and leaving to live elsewhere. I think you need to hold the begging bowl out to someone else. What country is doing well currently? Anyone know?

Personally think foreign aid cuts don’t go anywhere near enough thanks

That's not actually true. I'm another that supports cutting foreign aid to zero until the UK is in a much better position economically.

Olio
If I smash up your bike, give it back to you then ask why your bike is so slow. That like what we did. Gave the bike back, what's the problem?
I'm not saying we are responsible for everything, or should be trying to fix everything but I think it's despicable to bow out completely.

I don't accept the analogy at all.

As I said, I'm no apologist for imperialism but come on! The ex-colonies do have railways and infrastructure both concrete and abstract (in the form of admin, medical and educational institutions etc) which came as a result of the Empire. We didn't go in and bash up their bikes - often they didn't have bikes in the first place.

Imperialism is a stage in capitalism, or just economic development - nearly every powerful and successful country in history is guilty of it. Not nice, but it's a very long time since some of the colonies got independence and to keep blaming the UK for their ills is sounding very hollow now.