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Help !How to Politely ask DM to stop coming to stay !! ??

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Onedownonetogooo · 30/07/2023 16:13

My mum divides me. Occasionally, she can be lovely and kind . However she can be rude , lazy and extremely negative.

The issue is we live 5 hours away from each other so when we see each other it’s a visit of around a week. This is way too long.

When she comes to stay she never helps around the home and I will always end up cooking and entertaining her whilst she claims she is here to help. She makes snide comments about my husband and is generally negative in her conversation and talks endlessly about people I barely know and usually repeats the same old stories.

I love my mum but when she leaves I am always exhausted , annoyed and frustrated with her . I beg my husband to never let me agree to her visiting again. I used to visit her but it’s hard now I have 2 small children and a newborn. So now she keeps asking to come and stay . But I can’t bare it when she is here .

I have asked her before to help but she often refuses
. E.g- could you please bath dd?
Why doesn’t your husband do it .

Could you get this from the shop please ?
I don’t want to go out .

Do you mind taking DD to the park ?
rolls eyes- can’t DH do that later ??? Then critics DH!

She loves a drink and often holds court in the evening which is painful. DH now dreads her visits as I am always so stressed before , during and after ( sometimes for weeks!)

I have tried so many times to say that I need her help . But still I always end up waiting on her , listening to her gossip and becoming so frustrated as she sips wine and moans on !!! I try and shut down her negative conversation but she continues .

What’s ironic is she says she’s coming to help!

She is extremely tight and alot of her conversation are about the price of things !!! It’s boring . She will ask how much everything costs ( are those knives new I bet they cost alot . You buy your bread at Sainsburys, you must be rich ! Is that a new kettle ?)

She never wants to spend money so we never go out for a coffee, lunch or dinner . I always buy the food , cook and wash up . The days seem endless and i feel I’m entertaining from 8am to 10pm. She doesn’t ever stop talking . She follows me from room to room.I find it suffocating whilst she is here .

But I know she has a good heart and she does love her grandchildren and me . I have a brother but I know he doesn’t see her often. She loves me and I know she enjoys our time together . I feel crippling guilt that o don’t enjoy our time . Occasionally She has good spells where she can be lovely and kind .

I have recently had a little boy and she now keeps wanting to visit and I get it - she loves babies and is desperate to see him but it is so stressful each time she is here and after. DH has now asked she doesn’t come for a month or so as I’ve been so stressed by her.

Yesterday she called again , asking to stay and saying that she will ‘help out ‘ I just feel such guilt saying no. But I don’t want her to come . I’ve tried asking to visit for shorter periods but there are always excuses why she can’t . I’ve tried to be positive during her visits but I always end up having an awful time . I don’t want to cut her out . She isn’t evil . I’ve been stuck in this cycle with her for 20 years since I was 15 . The issue us now ok married and have children and it effects all of us when she visits as im so stressed. I often spend weeks after analyzing the situation and it is exhausting for me and DH.

How can I manage her asking to come each month ? She doesn’t seem to take hints I have given ( we need time as a family / I’m too exhausted to host and cook for visitors !)

OP posts:
JudgeRudy · 30/07/2023 17:25

Well there's 2 things going on here, the length of her stay is too long, and her company is draining.
You say she always has a reason why she can't just stay a couple of nights. Still? She's coming up with more? Just say "Oh OK Mum, when would be a better time".
When she says she's coming to help (presumably over the phone) why don't you chuckle and when she asks why you're laughing say kindly "Oh Mum, really...when have you ever helped out?" If she insists she has (she'll vaguely refer to that time when....) say "OK, Mum if you really mean it, how about taking care of the kids on Xday so me and OH can go out for lunch/dinner." If she objects point out that she doesn't enjoy eating out does she. If she says she does, well hold her to that next time she's down.
The boring conversation about Sandra's conservatory, or the wheelie bin cycle....well that's part of life I guess. We're all a bit guilty of this I think.
Good luck

UpaladderwatchingTV · 30/07/2023 17:29

As I always say to people when faced with a difficult conversation, where the person you want to put straight is likely to interrupt, deny, and generally won't listen to what you're trying to say - Write her a letter! Tell her exactly what the problems are, and say that if she's prepared to actually do what you ask of her, then you're prepared to give it one more try, but the first time she refuses to help when you ask her to, or bad mouths your DH, etc., then she will be told to go home, and won't be invited again. If you post this to her, she will doubtless be eager to read a letter from her daughter, and she has to read it, before responding, so if she then calls you to argue her case, you just simply say 'Mum, I've told you how I feel', on repeat, if she fails to listen, then you have your answer, you just tell her NO sorry Mum, but you're obviously not listening to me, so we won't be having you to stay in future!! The letter gets the really hard part out of the way, and I'm sure you can handle her response.

jeaux90 · 30/07/2023 17:36

Jesus OP I bet she tells her friends she comes and helps you a lot and they all think she's marvellous

SadKen82 · 30/07/2023 17:36

MinnieGirl · 30/07/2023 16:28

Maybe be honest?

Mum you always say you are coming to help, but once you are here you refuse to help and I end up waiting on you hand and foot while you make nasty comments about DH…
I have 3 small children and I’m exhausted. I can’t cope with your negative comments nor can I continue to wait on you hand and foot. If you visit you need to help and not sit there moaning all day

See how she reacts to that….

This.

Howyiz · 30/07/2023 17:41

MinnieGirl · 30/07/2023 16:28

Maybe be honest?

Mum you always say you are coming to help, but once you are here you refuse to help and I end up waiting on you hand and foot while you make nasty comments about DH…
I have 3 small children and I’m exhausted. I can’t cope with your negative comments nor can I continue to wait on you hand and foot. If you visit you need to help and not sit there moaning all day

See how she reacts to that….

Totally agree with this.

Get it out in the open and then look for ways to meet both your needs.

She can come, but only for 2 days
Any negative comments about your husband she needs to go home.
She needs to be willing to give a hand.
You'll go for brunch/lunch/dinner so that you have time to relax and enjoy each others company.

SmudgeButt · 30/07/2023 17:42

"Sure mom, come on that Monday but just so you know we're away on Wed & Thursday that week so you'll have to leave after 1 night."

Vrisky · 30/07/2023 17:42

She sounds truly awful to me.

The recommendations to be open and honest with her about her behaviour are great. But I know sometimes it's not so easy to jump to that all in one go.

I think the idea of not having enough space now that you have another kid is excellent. She can find a hotel or Airbnb of she wants to (but I don't think she will, because she wants to be waited on and fed and paid for by you). Also the idea of just lying (building work, boiler not working, electrical problems, leaks making rooms unusable, visitors are already staying).

You could work up gradually by refusing each request one at a time to start with, so that each refusal isn't so big a deal in itself and you can gradually reset the situation. Can't do those dates because x, not sure yet about that week because y, we might be going away ourselves on those dates. Then in no time at all the baby will need his own room and the kids can't share rooms ("otherwise nobody gets any sleep at all!"). So sad, no room for ANY visitors.

She has e ough excuses for you not to visit her - why aren't you allowed excuses as well?

I don't think limiting her to a few nights is going to work. One she gets in at all then you'd need to pry her out with a crowbar.

TahiniG · 30/07/2023 17:47

MinnieGirl · 30/07/2023 16:28

Maybe be honest?

Mum you always say you are coming to help, but once you are here you refuse to help and I end up waiting on you hand and foot while you make nasty comments about DH…
I have 3 small children and I’m exhausted. I can’t cope with your negative comments nor can I continue to wait on you hand and foot. If you visit you need to help and not sit there moaning all day

See how she reacts to that….

Another vote for this, or a variation or part of it. I think you need to start being honest with your mother.

How do you think she will react if you were a bit more honest? I'm guessing it will be an immature strop otherwise you would've done it already?

A full week once a month sounds far too much for anyone - even if she was the most consistently lovely and helpful mother alive.

It must be costing her a fair amount to make the 5 hr journey once a month, although maybe not if she is then saving a full week's food because you're buying it for her! A distance of 5 hrs is very tricky - even meeting up half way seems too much for a day trip with three very young children.

Twyford · 30/07/2023 17:50

Do what @MinnieGirl suggested.

Onedownonetogooo · 30/07/2023 18:35

Thanks everyone.
I know I have issues with confrontation and boundaries. But I think I’m clearly a walk over . I am. Hence being in this situation.

Soon there will be no room for her to visit due to the baby having to go in spare room. I will have to explain that she will need to stay in a hotel. .

In the meanwhile I’ll have to say we need to have space at home to bond. I don’t want to lose my sanity or my relationship. I’ve never ever called my mum out on the many hurtful things she has done but I can now be honest and explain I need alone time with my family . It’s her reply she can control and I guess I will see her reply !

OP posts:
Twothousandandjustonemore · 30/07/2023 18:40

she says she’s coming to help!
”yet you never actually help at all..”

I’ve tried asking to visit for shorter periods but there are always excuses why she can’t .
”well then sorry, but you won’t be able to come this time. It needs to be just 3 days or not at all”.

Lottapianos · 30/07/2023 18:43

'I know I have issues with confrontation and boundaries.'

And you have a very unempathetic self-absorbed mother. Those two things are probably not unconnected

faw2009 · 30/07/2023 18:48

As well as being more assertive when she doesn't help/wants to stay longer, do you have to bring all the children to see her at once? Why not take turns with the kids?

OhcantthInkofaname · 30/07/2023 18:51

MinnieGirl · 30/07/2023 16:28

Maybe be honest?

Mum you always say you are coming to help, but once you are here you refuse to help and I end up waiting on you hand and foot while you make nasty comments about DH…
I have 3 small children and I’m exhausted. I can’t cope with your negative comments nor can I continue to wait on you hand and foot. If you visit you need to help and not sit there moaning all day

See how she reacts to that….

I second this response. You need to tell her straight out.

Seasideanticscanleadtosandybuckets · 30/07/2023 18:58

Maybe seeing as she seems to have a low opinion of dh go along the lines of he has stepped up dm I really don't need the help now. Where does she sleep? Can you move a dc into the spare room? Can anyone else be staying instead? Even if they aren't!

SpainToday · 30/07/2023 18:58

Soon there will be no room for her to visit due to the baby having to go in spare room. I will have to explain that she will need to stay in a hotel. .

Well if there’s no room, then that’s actually quite helpful!

Irequireausername · 30/07/2023 19:01

Of course she wants to come and stay, misery loves company.

You cook for her, entertain her, listen to her moan about people (even your DH)

She doesn't want to spend money and she can visit you and be entertained for free.

There's no incentive for her not to visit.

Hillstreet · 30/07/2023 19:04

I think you need to stop framing it as being nice/saving her feelings by letting her continue staying in your home.

She makes snide comments about your husband in his own house. Unless there is truth in what she is saying about him that needs to be addressed, it’s completely unfair on your husband to have her to stay.

If you can’t address her not helping and creating extra work for you, do it for him. Either have a frank conversation about boundaries with her or tell her she will have to stay in a hotel.

Seasideanticscanleadtosandybuckets · 30/07/2023 19:37

Hotel. And don't you bloody dare offer to pay!!
Bet she won't come often at her own expense..

Tiqtaq · 30/07/2023 19:57

When she says she will help out ask her what help she is offering. Have a list pre-prepared of the help you would like.

Have the conversation about what is helpful and what is not.
Eg it's helpful if you can cook dinner/ babysit for me and DH to go out/ take the kids to the park without me/ do the ironing etc

Tell her you and DH have decided that 3 days is the maximum that you can host for.

When she talks negatively about DH ask her to stop. If she brings up a subject you don't want to talk about them change the subject.

At the moment you are not playing your part in improving the relationship OP because you are being very passive.

If none of the above works then drastically cut down on contact time.

Tiqtaq · 30/07/2023 20:22

This

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