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If you were currently on a hen weekend, what would you think if you’ve got this note…

173 replies

Greengrassohla · 28/07/2023 18:43

I live next door to an Airbnb house, that is currently rented out to a hen party.

This has been a recent development with the short-term lets, and frequently we hear really loud music late at night.

I am a little bit worried that sending a handwritten, anonymous note makes me look like a mentalist, but I absolutely do not want to be knocking on the door and interacting with these people.

What would your reaction be if you received this, would it make you just ramp up the noise even worse?

“Hi, I am just writing to let you know that this is a residential area, and any music you play is audible to your neighbours.

It would be great if you could keep this in mind if you choose to play music later. Thanks x”

If you were currently on a hen weekend, what would you think if you’ve got this note…
OP posts:
Colingirth · 30/07/2023 02:01

I guess the underlying problem here is that your neighbour is the sort of cunt who thinks it’s okay to turn their property into an irritation for their neighbours whilst they’re off in one of their other homes counting the cash.

CelestiaNoctis · 30/07/2023 02:27

I would never play music loud enough to disturb neighbours because I'm not an inconsiderate asshole so this note wouldn't affect me.

daisychain01 · 30/07/2023 04:49

Please can you turn the music down after 11pm, I can't sleep.

thanks

marblesthecat · 30/07/2023 06:32

Colingirth · 30/07/2023 02:01

I guess the underlying problem here is that your neighbour is the sort of cunt who thinks it’s okay to turn their property into an irritation for their neighbours whilst they’re off in one of their other homes counting the cash.

Yep. I can't believe people yet away with it. I managed to get the one next to me shut down but I had to go through months of hell first. They turned it into a private rental after the local council threatened them with court. I hope OP does the same. All the people on this thread saying OP should have the owners' number are forgetting that even if they come over and kick out the guests the neighbours have already been disturbed by this point and it makes you ill constantly waiting she noise and wondering who the next guests will be.

BlastedIce · 30/07/2023 06:54

BigGreen · 28/07/2023 18:48

Just ask them to stop playing music at a specific time.

I think this as well.

electriclight · 30/07/2023 07:07

I'm really surprised at the posters saying that op is a busybody and that they'd ignore the note.

To me, op sounds like someone who has the misfortune to live next door to an air B&B party house and just wants to ask residents to have a reasonable level of consideration for the neighbours.

A busybody wouldn't be on here agonising over the right wording of a note.

People saying to just go round and knock are irritating me because it is as if the only thing some people respect is a level of confident bolshyness that not everyone possesses. I expect at least some of the noisy, inconsiderate holidaymakers must be aware of their impact but just doubt anyone will be bold enough to come and challenge them on it.

OP, I guess this thread is your answer. Truly reasonable people wouldn't disturb you in the first place. Many more will respond to your note thoughtfully. Some will think 'fuck off I've paid for this and want a good time, your note has irrationally annoyed me so I'm turning it up.'

Yuasa · 30/07/2023 07:41

I'm really surprised at the posters saying that op is a busybody and that they'd ignore the note.

I’m not surprised, but I do find it depressing. I have had issues with noisy, short-term renters, and a large part of the problem is the sheer mental energy that goes into thinking how to approach them and the LL. Too soft and friendly and you risk being walked over. Assertive and a certain sort of person takes umbrage and makes life worse. Notes can be seen as PA. Going around can end with you being threatened and having phones shoved in your face while they record you. Involve the council and it has to be declared when selling.

Every poster who thinks that note is wanky, busybody, pompous, etc., could think for just one moment what it’s like living next door to a property like this. No, going around every time to who knows what reception isn’t the answer. It’s perfectly obvious that if you could trust people to do that mental legwork you wouldn’t get all the ‘well, I’d just be offended because I hadn’t done anything like that’ nonsense.

I do agree with the roof of the problem being the LL and the Airbnb model, though. Work on the LL and if that doesn’t work, the council OP.

Artama · 30/07/2023 07:56

I live next to an airbnb house. Owners have asked them to be mindeful of neighbours. Does not alway
happen tho. I do text owners let them know about it. In one case they were throwing cigarette ends onto my patio. My partner went mad and let rip with them. Turned into an ugly arguement. Owners bought wine round later in the week to try to passify us. I said it's was disrespectful what they did.

JMSA · 30/07/2023 08:20

I'm the type of person who'd be mindful of others anyway, so I wouldn't ignore your note ... and I definitely wouldn't crank up the volume more! Only an inconsiderate dickhead would.
The owner of the place needs to be doing more.
One thing I would say is that your note, although polite and respectful, is a bit wishy-washy. It might be best to give them a time as well as a general noise reminder.
Good luck - it can't be easy.

Morewineplease10 · 30/07/2023 08:45

Sounds fine. Wouldn't offend me!

electriclight · 30/07/2023 09:09

I think your note is fine but would get a better response if a bit more personal.

I have a friend who rents out his second home. He has family photos displayed in it because apparently people are more respectful if you are a real person and not anonymous.

But then also try to build a relationship with the owner. I know you said it's a company but they want happy neighbours and customers. They don't want you calling them three times every week or involving the council, and they don't want bad reviews from customers because you were giving them a hard time. There are things they can do to encourage considerate behaviour from guests.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 30/07/2023 12:56

I think it sounds perfectly reasonable .

belgiumchocolates · 30/07/2023 16:01

I sympathise with you OP but unfortunately I think a note like this will just go in the bin after they've had a laugh about it.

Weekend guests on a hen party for instance will want to do whatever they want and have a good time.

They've likely paid a lot of money for the B&B and as they are just there for a short stay, pissing off the neighbours won't be top of their concerns

BarbarianBlue · 30/07/2023 16:18

Get up early and (with the agreement of other neighbours) play really bad music right near them. They’ll complain to the landlord who’ll stop renting to hen nights.

CrazyLadie · 30/07/2023 18:15

Greengrassohla · 28/07/2023 18:56

Thanks everyone, a really interesting range of responses. I’ve tried really hard not to make the note to passive aggressive, it’s certainly better than the first two versions!

I appreciate ‘these people’ sounds a bit off, just that they’ve been playing music in the afternoon so I think they’re likely to already I’ll be a little bit drunk, so I don’t know how well they’d react.

I can appreciate those of you saying that they haven’t done it yet, but it seems to be that if people are playing music in the afternoon, they also tend to play it late at night.

Given the frequency of noise from next door I don’t want to have to get into the habit of knocking every flipping weekend, I kind of have it in mind to form a good version of the note, so if people start out by being loud early in the day, I can just pop a note through.

As for taking it up with the local council, or owners, this area is rife with Airbnb’s and I doubt very much they would take notice. Prime hen do location.

Not sure though: sending a note is stressful, not sending a note and listening to the music is stressful, not sure what to do for the best! 😀

Call the cops and anti social team if it's still ongoing at 11pm, but it has to be loud when all your windows are closed.

ITryHarder · 31/07/2023 15:11

Your note kind of sounds like you're lecturing them, and that often gets feathers ruffled. They know it's a residential area, and above all, don't insult them by calling it a hen party. Are there others who agree with you? If so and you hesitate to knock by yourself, take one with you. Ask nicely if they could turn the music down after 9, 10, whatever, that there are a few who have to get up early and a few little ones in bed. Many people will comply, but yes, there are always the other kind. Then, you call the police, and hopefully, have every neighbor who's affected call.

ITryHarder · 31/07/2023 15:37

Or - when the house is vacant, put a professionally looking notice on the front and back doors - GUESTS, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PEOPLE WHO MUST GET UP EARLY AND SLEEPING CHILDREN. KEEP MUSIC AND OUTDOOR CONVERSATION AT A MINIMUM AFTER 10PM. 911 MAY RESPOND QUICKLY AND UNHAPPILY WHEN IT GETS TOO MANY CALLS. Signed by - the Company name, CHELTENHAM

which is what all these Airbnb homeowners should be doing!!

Kinneddar · 31/07/2023 18:29

ITryHarder · 31/07/2023 15:37

Or - when the house is vacant, put a professionally looking notice on the front and back doors - GUESTS, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PEOPLE WHO MUST GET UP EARLY AND SLEEPING CHILDREN. KEEP MUSIC AND OUTDOOR CONVERSATION AT A MINIMUM AFTER 10PM. 911 MAY RESPOND QUICKLY AND UNHAPPILY WHEN IT GETS TOO MANY CALLS. Signed by - the Company name, CHELTENHAM

which is what all these Airbnb homeowners should be doing!!

You think the owner or agents are going to just leave some random notice on their door? It'll be removed & binned by them

10oclock · 31/07/2023 18:32

continentallentil · 28/07/2023 18:48

You sound like Mrs Sniffy

Whats going to be much more effective is to knock on the door and say - play it loud till 11 by all means but after that could you keep it down because I have to work early and there are loads of kids on the street.

We’ve asked the owners to stop letting to hen parties but they just don’t listen. I know it’s not your fault. Have a great night.

Face to face is always better and this way you are treating them like reasonable people.

You need to take this up with the owner / the council / air bnb.

I think this is a terrible idea and the OP could end up in an uncomfortable exchange.

Riri24 · 31/07/2023 18:33

Maybe you need to raise this with the property owner? Realistically its them you need to discuss this with. Presumably the guests told the owner it was a hen do? They have paid money to stay for what is essentially a party so I wouldn't be surprised if they ignore your note.

WeetabixTowels · 31/07/2023 18:33

Me - I’d be mortified that that note had to be sent in the first place.

Then again I’m not a dick who’d play loud music anyway, neither are my friends, and I suspect people who are would react like dicks.

Have a word with the landlord about no hen parties

ITryHarder · 31/07/2023 22:49

Kinneddar · 31/07/2023 18:29

You think the owner or agents are going to just leave some random notice on their door? It'll be removed & binned by them

It doesn't matter. If the owner happens to see it, he'll get the hint and maybe start informing his guests.

Wibbleswombats · 31/07/2023 22:54

See if the council have a noise app, do a statutory complaint if you don't mind having to declare it if you move.

I would move.

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