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Why do people in the uk think insurance covers everything?

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bernieaa · 27/07/2023 23:03

I find that uk people think business are bound by hefty insurance and so are trades people.

Eg - I've seen it written that if a trades person such as a bathroom fitter breaks an item in the fitting, they should "claim on their insurance". They don't have insurance to cover such damage.

Or I'm pregnant woman wouldn't be allowed to use the hotel spa due to "limitations of insurance". If this was the case than people should be notified at the door and asked to sign in etc stating they aren't pregnant etc. i accept to protect the business against claims from pregnant women who potentially suffered ill health etc, but that's not a term of insurance.

Germany has got the reputation of insuring everything and being overly insured. I think people confuse laws and regulations with "insurance".

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caerdydd12 · 29/07/2023 13:36

This is the second thread you've posted where you just seem to want to disagree with all the responses. What's the point?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/07/2023 13:41

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 13:34

@NeverDropYourMooncup that doesn't require a minor works cert as there are no wire modifications or alterations. A new outside socket you would be asking for a cert, but that's only if the home owner is not competent and they are worried about others getting harmed.

So no your insurance wouldn't be asking for it.

There's no modifications involved in me connecting up a new oven, either. Perfectly safe? Even if I only think I'm a competent person and in reality, I'm a mediocre male overconfident muppet who wouldn't notice if the cable were half melted through?

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 13:43

caerdydd12 · 29/07/2023 13:36

This is the second thread you've posted where you just seem to want to disagree with all the responses. What's the point?

Go away

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bernieaa · 29/07/2023 13:44

@NeverDropYourMooncup yeah it's pretty easy to connect three wires.... no electrician required and if you pay for it from AO etc you won't be given a cert or indeed an election

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ThreeLittleDots · 29/07/2023 13:52

LOL

Fatkittythinkitty · 29/07/2023 13:58

I'm wondering if the reason people don't understand insurance very well is because the people working in it aren't very good at explaining things or have a slightly unfortunate manner when interacting with people....

Threads to berate people for their stupidity are never well received. As someone said upthread, why not simply offer advice when you are asked or can see it's needed?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/07/2023 14:00

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 13:44

@NeverDropYourMooncup yeah it's pretty easy to connect three wires.... no electrician required and if you pay for it from AO etc you won't be given a cert or indeed an election

AO say

Our fully trained installation team can get your new electric oven installed and ready to go on delivery day for just £115. We’re up to the task and fully approved by the NICEIC. That’s the National Inspection Council for Electrical Installation Contracting.

They complete the installation records digitally.

And this is in their recruitment specifications for installers;

Some experience of installation of electrical appliances would be ideal, but we'll train you to be electrically competent and gain qualifications.

Electric Single Ovens | ao.com

They're neat and take up less space - browse our range of Electric Single Ovens. Flexible delivery available.

https://ao.com/l/electric_single_ovens/1/42-43-45/

caerdydd12 · 29/07/2023 15:28

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 13:43

Go away

Lol just made my point there though haven't you?

MigGirl · 29/07/2023 15:36

bernieaa · 27/07/2023 23:46

It's not a legal requirement to provide an eicr to buy/sell a house; only to rent.

Unless they have changed it again in the last five years, it is a legal requirement to supply electrical safety certificates for anybwork you've had done since the law changed. You can still do work yourself but it would need to be checked by an electrician. They changed this a few years ago now to stop people just doing dodgy electrics on houses.

You need to supply the certificates when you sell the house. Luckily we'd had our old house since before they changed the law and could just claim we hadn't had any work done in that time.

UsingChangeofName · 29/07/2023 16:04

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 13:43

Go away

Hmm

Nice !

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 16:08

@MigGirl EICR. Valid for five years. You are confusing noticeable work with insurance companies actually asking the police owner to provide proof their electrics are safe.

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bernieaa · 29/07/2023 16:09

@NeverDropYourMooncup you ain't getting a certificate. Simple as that. The qualification is "competent" based on not being an electrician or qualified.

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MigGirl · 29/07/2023 19:30

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 16:08

@MigGirl EICR. Valid for five years. You are confusing noticeable work with insurance companies actually asking the police owner to provide proof their electrics are safe.

No I'm not, I'm not even referring to insurance companies.

You said there is no legal requirement when selling a house when in fact there is if you've had work done. I also said nothing about proving what is there is already safe. 🤔

https://www.nationalsafetyinspections.co.uk/blog/do-i-need-an-eicr-to-sell-my-house/

Do I Need an EICR to Sell My House? - National Safety Inspections

Obtaining an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR) provides potential buyers assurance that the electrics are safe & speed up the selling process!

https://www.nationalsafetyinspections.co.uk/blog/do-i-need-an-eicr-to-sell-my-house

bernieaa · 30/07/2023 00:51

@MigGirl eicr.

The homeowner could have tampered with the electrics or they were never safe.,...

It gives a dated report.

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Spirallingdownwards · 31/07/2023 18:09

bernieaa · 29/07/2023 11:01

@Spirallingdownwards unfortunately not. Insurance doesn't cover their neglect.

True, then you have to pursue them personally.

nokidshere · 31/07/2023 23:42

This thread is raising awareness

It really isn't. It's just argumentative nonsense. And confrontational at that. If you want to give salient information you could do so without sounding so ridiculous 🙄

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