Benefit fraud investigation

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So have gone through CMS to try get money off my ex, we were colleagues for years and I know he gets around £500 a week cash in hand from work alone and is also getting benefits. CMS recently told me that they received evidence from HMRC that my Ex ‘earns’ £100 a week from working and is still on benefits. I contested this and now Fraud/Financial investigation is underway and they have referred the case over to Benefit Fraud. I feel quite uneasy as it will be obvious it came from me. Any advice? Should I have just left it alone? So anxious.

Anyone have firsthand experience of what happens when he is found guilty? Will he actually have to pay the money back and/or face prison sentence?

1. Yes, really.
2. We didn’t live together and I didn’t benefit from the money
3. Only found out about it when I was pregnant and told him I didn’t agree with it
4. 🤡

@Mumuser124 tbf he was paying £15 a week when the calculation came out at £7, cms did a new calculation and have now came back with a figure of £14 something and it’s now day 6 of no payment 🙃

Ask cms to collect any payments.

The person doing the payroll was dishonest and engaged in a fraud which benefited your Ex
Dishonest people who like money tend to steal it when they cant earn it honestly.
You got paid your Net pay the dishonest person was in charge of paying over any deduction from your Gross pay.
You need to check each deduction.

Hi OP, I was investigated for benefit fraud not long ago but found nothing wrong because I never did anything wrong. No one told me who reported me and I have no clue who would but I forgot about it tbh. They wont tell him it was you.

🤔

not quite what you said on your other thread back in March

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4759584-report-ex-for-benefit-fraud?postsby=Sn0wpink

just read through it there and I can’t see any conflicting information lol enlighten me

That you knew about it when together but “didn’t report it because it didn’t affect me”

but you were asking whether to report the fraud now that it was affecting you by him not paying CMS

Ghostbuster2639 it didn't affect me when we were together so didn't report it. Now he's not supporting our child and its affecting me which is why I'm considering it.

I am still hesitant to report to hmrc as a lot of bridges would be burned for me and friendships ruined.

this was back in early march

so you didn’t report him. Hence this thread in late July

OP I'm not sure why you're getting a hard time from some posters. I've read this thread and even the linked thread and it all reads very consistently to me.

Do try not to worry. Your ex probably won't know who reported him and even if he does, if he's been committing fraud then he should expect to get caught eventually anyway!

@Weflewinstyle seriously what do you get from hunting out OP's previous threads? To me it just looks like an attempt to undermine, derail and generally put off the OP and don't really think your comments are in the spirit of the site

@Weflewinstyle i literally wrote in this thread that I found out about it when I was pregnant ? still failing to see the inconsistencies between the threads but whatever lol

@ScarlettSunset @daisychaindays thank you both!! :)

@Weflewinstyle didn’t affect me then and doesn’t really affect me now but it will ultimately have an impact on my child so yeah I’m happy he’s being investigated; even happier that I didn’t have to be the one to report him cos CMS did it for me 🥰
p.s it’s not nice to be a troll hun x

your child is 11 months old

and you discovered his benefit fraud whilst pregnant

you have sat on this information for at least a year, knowing your ex was defrauding the state and taking benefits he wasn’t entitled to. You considered reporting in March because it “was now affecting me” but didn’t bother in the end.

i at least hope you reporting the horrific abuse of his father that you claimed to be planning to do.

People earning £2000 per month may still be able to claim benefits. Particularly if children/childcare costs are on the claim, and if the claimant is caring for a disabled person. I used to work for DWP - even some staff on £28k salaries had legitimate claims for benefits themselves. So the amount fraudulently obtained by your ex may be lower than you may assume. This fraud referral will most likely be dealt with by compliance and prosecution is unlikely.

Maybe she won’t report it if it ‘doesn’t affect her?’ 🙄

Thank you for reporting him.

He deserves what he gets, benefits are for those who need them, not for those who are milking the system cos as a tax payer, I'm funding that fuckery!

Ref what might happen? He'll go to court, if he's found guilty he'll have to pay it back. Prison is rare for these offences unless he's been doing this for years and years.

He has been doing it for years

Stop dithering and report him. The guy is ripping off the taxpayer, as is your employer, abusing his elderly parents and presumably you want the taxpayer to support your child that you decided to have with a waster and will want the taxpayer to pay for. You know what to do. Report him.

It’s the typical MN attitude. On some threads they vigorously defend benefit fraudsters like heir life depends on it, telling OP to keep her nose out. Probably because half of MN is on the rob.

Update for anyone who cares- turns out the FIU didn’t take the case because there’s not enough evidence 🙃 back to square 1 lol

But you know he is defrauding and that your ex company is complicit, in fact enabling it.

and after years of him doing this - no evidence whatsoever that you could provide?

and yesterday late afternoon you start the thread and already a conclusion. 🤔

@Weflewinstyle yes actually, I tried to upload more evidence to the child maintenance portal this morning, got an error message so phoned them and they informed me that the FIU didn’t take the case as the evidence I had provided last week isn’t substantial enough, was told if there was evidence he owned property/land/multiple lavish cars then they could do something but he lives with his dad and drives a mobility car so yeah