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Worried about friends future

47 replies

Thetravellingwanderer · 26/07/2023 11:35

NC for this

I have a friend, lets call her A and she appears to have absolutely zero ambition to try and improve her life.

A is almost 42, Single, 2 kids, 15 and 8 I think, both in FTE, she has no job, hasn't worked for over 15yrs and seemingly doesn't seem to be thinking about the future.

She has never learned to drive, and makes her own parents, who are well into their 70s drive her food shopping each week, and not just that but any trip needs to be accommodated by her parents, basically anywhere outside of the town she lives, think about all the times any parent just takes their kids to the seaside/zoo/after school clubs, they even take them all on a family holiday. She can't do any of it, thing is her parents won't be able to drive forever, and I have gently enquired as to where she sees herself in the future, there is a high chance her kids will move out of the local area as it is a small town, and her parents won't be able to drive her about anymore.

There is also the housing situation, she lives in a new build house which is provided via Council/HA, I haven't enquired which, but to those in the know, what happens when both the kids turn 18, Child benefit will stop I know, and i'm sure once they move out the council will say you can't have a 3bed for 1 person, so I don't know where she will go, or how she will pay her way, I fear she will end up having to move back into her parents in her mid-late fifties

Friend A is generally a nice person, loves her kids, but airs all her life over social media, including slating her EX of the 2nd child all the time, I can't help but feel this will negatively be picked up by her children, and whatever issues there are at least keep it yourself and between the ex.

Myself and other mums are a mixture of single/coupled parents, all with similar aged kids, and each one of us is either back at work/studying trying to provide a better life for ourselves, showing our kids a strong work ethic etc, I don't think there is a valid reason why she doesn't go back to work, she will say she suffers with Mental health every now and then, but I believe from knowing her over 20yrs, this is more a copout, and it is more a case of being mentally weak, her parents have enabled this behaviour and i feel she needs a bit of a reality check and kick up the backside, she seems to think that she will meet a man and everything will be ok. However a relationship is more team work, and she claims all her exes have had red flags, when in reality I don't think many men will choose to date an unemployed mum who can't drive, as they don't want to be a taxi service and bank card for someone who stays at home. If it was the other way round and by all the threads on here, I know women would say kick this person out they are a leach.

The issue is now myself and others are beginning to tire of As attitude, she doesn't really have anything to talk about apart from talk nonsense about her Ex, and we are all getting tired and weary with it. I fear she is being left behind in life, and hasn't realised what will happen when her kids move out, living their own lives and social commitments, I fear she will be making them drive her around for the rest of her life, can you imagine if they move towns and she is saying they need to pick her up and take her food shopping etc. We are at the point where we are planning holidays with other couples/friends etc, and of course she can't afford to do any of it, but we shouldn't feel bad for wanting to have a good life if we are working for it.

AIBU to slowly distance myself from this friend?

OP posts:
ordellrobie · 26/07/2023 17:49

Firstly no, the council don't kick you out of your home because your children left. If you claim benefits though they will deduct from them for both rooms which could put her in a bad financial position, but if she's going to be retirement age, and getting her contributions via benefits, by the time the kids leave she will be able to live off the pension although it will be a measly lifestyle.

But look, I'm more of a mess than this woman, I'm the same age on benefits massive debts and socially housed, but you know what not one of my friends would ever to do me because of it?

If you want to distance yourself from someone, friend, lover, family, you don't have to justify it. Just do it because you want to. Friends are supposed to love each other and it's okay if you don't love this person and are not their friend. You don't have to be friends with everyone and you don't have to remain in relationships that don't offer you anything.

cocksstrideintheevening · 26/07/2023 17:56

Well she's clearly not your friend. Your not concerned about her you want to stick the boot in.

If you don't want to be friends, don't.

navithefairy · 26/07/2023 17:59

There's no obligation to be friends with someone you don't really care about/ want to spend time with.

catsnhats11 · 26/07/2023 18:07

People like this always manage so I wouldn't worry, someone else always steps in to pick up the slack, the state, new partner, new friend, kids (when they're adults)...she'll be fine.

Gerrataere · 26/07/2023 18:20

People who are worried about friends want to help them, or at least advise them when’s struggling. They don’t list out their perceived faults and hope a bunch of strangers jump in to agree they’re a mess. They certainly don’t make assumptions about how could they get the ultimate prize, A Man ™️ , with their life being so apparently chaotic.

You’re no friend op, but I think you know that deep down.

Calmdown14 · 26/07/2023 18:23

The style in which you have written your post is attracting a lot of criticism but if this was written with the same information and 'should I be concerned about the future ' the overwhelming answer would be 'yes'.

But as it's not your life the best you can do is point out the jobs market currently is strong and that it's harder than it's been for a while for schools to recruit lunchtime supervisors etc and hope she might put herself out there.

She is leaving herself open to a poor old age but maybe she expects a large inheritance.

Silvergreenblue · 26/07/2023 18:27

tara66 · 26/07/2023 14:30

Did you know it is still taking 6 months to get a driving test? DVLA has done nothing to catch up on test not taken during covid it seems. Friend failed this month and had been waiting to take test since Xmas. She now has to wait until December to retake, She failed because she misunderstood the Sat Nav voice instructions to ''take second left turning''- she took first left turning. I think they are discouraging people from driving because of ''saving environment'' policy - which seems logical. Fewer drivers that pass test = less pollution.

You need to log in at the right time and look for cancellations

Gerrataere · 26/07/2023 18:31

Calmdown14 · 26/07/2023 18:23

The style in which you have written your post is attracting a lot of criticism but if this was written with the same information and 'should I be concerned about the future ' the overwhelming answer would be 'yes'.

But as it's not your life the best you can do is point out the jobs market currently is strong and that it's harder than it's been for a while for schools to recruit lunchtime supervisors etc and hope she might put herself out there.

She is leaving herself open to a poor old age but maybe she expects a large inheritance.

It’s not the situation that’s the issue here though, it’s the way the op is talking about a supposed friend. The judgment, the assumptions, the ‘me me me’ undertone of some else’s business. The op isn’t looking for a way to advise a friend, she’s embarrassed of her and wants everyone else to justify her moving away from the friendship rather than admit she no longer wants to be associated with someone she considers beneath her socially.

Emmamoo89 · 26/07/2023 18:35

She's better off without you

LuluGuinea · 26/07/2023 18:37

What do you mean mentally weak? In what way and what makes you think she is this way because of her parent

LuluGuinea · 26/07/2023 18:39

Gerrataere · 26/07/2023 18:20

People who are worried about friends want to help them, or at least advise them when’s struggling. They don’t list out their perceived faults and hope a bunch of strangers jump in to agree they’re a mess. They certainly don’t make assumptions about how could they get the ultimate prize, A Man ™️ , with their life being so apparently chaotic.

You’re no friend op, but I think you know that deep down.

This . 100% this.

Op, you don't like her. You don't have to like everybody but why on earth do you pretend to be her friend?

LuluGuinea · 26/07/2023 18:40

I'm guessing you're acquaintance at best, not a close friend. If someone is diagnosed with mental health issues they are not likely to be making them up.

Chickpea17 · 26/07/2023 18:45

Well she's clearly not your friend.
Live your own life and stop sounding so smug

pinksheetss · 26/07/2023 18:48

So judgemental OP

To answer your question though - council/HA won't Chuck her out the house when kids move out. Regardless of the size and how many are living there (whether that's right or not morally is a different discussion) but no she won't lose her home

SilIssuesAgain · 26/07/2023 19:39

Your just having a nasty rant disguised as concern?
This

Cosycover · 26/07/2023 19:51

Mind your own business ffs.

ChrisPPancake · 26/07/2023 20:14

I think if I was A I'd be the one distancing myself!

nothingcomestonothing · 26/07/2023 20:23

she will say she suffers with Mental health every now and then, but I believe from knowing her over 20yrs, this is more a copout, and it is more a case of being mentally weak

Well you sound lovely. A is better off without you.

NadjaCravensworth1 · 26/07/2023 20:35

Yeah you're not her friend so I wouldn't worry

pottyboys · 26/07/2023 20:46

F

unicornhair · 26/07/2023 20:51

Actually I know someone similar. She’s never really worked, relies heavily on her mother, she goes there for her dinner every night for instance, she can’t cook at all.
Her eldest has gone (she tried desperately to stop her) but she went to uni and has a career. She now has to pay bedroom tax, she’s very annoyed about. I imagine the same routine will play out with DD2.
What she does is attaches herself to another parent and tries to get them to organise things for her, take her child out, drive her about. She didn’t realise I wasn’t sending my DD to the same school as hers as she was unhappy as the thought I would be driving them both to and from (DD actually walked). Literally wants spoon feeding over everything.
My answer was to quietly distance myself. The main parent she relied on moved away and she started thinking I would pick up the reigns. Ringing me at 11 on a Wednesday to take her to Tesco, but not understanding that me being in work might be an issue to this etc. wanting her DD to join activities that DD went to so I could pick hers up and take her etc.

I don’t think you can change other people. If they complain, you offer a solution, the don’t do it and still complain, walk away. I think she sounds like someone who has set up her life in a way that suits her, it might not particularly be practical long term, honestly that’s her problem.

Thatboymum · 26/07/2023 21:41

And HER life choices affect you how ?….

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