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Payment for working at a festival

12 replies

Passe · 24/07/2023 20:57

Genuinely not sure sure what to do.

Recently helped a casual friend out at a festival with cooking/selling food. There was a team of us, all new to this sort of venue and all completely exhausted after 4 days of 14 hour shifts Shock

We have been asked to submit hours worked so we can be paid but I am unsure whether to add on time taken for the daily trek to from the car park to the pitch.
Most days it took us at least 45 minutes each way, carrying heavy bags across muddy fields, in pitch black, exhausted (at night), nobody really having a clue where we were parked and festival attendants not being any help Confused.
I don't want to appear grabby but when you've already done a back breaking 14 hour stint, AIBU to expect extra for the "commute"?
The friend hasn't mentioned payment for this element so not sure what to do.

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HaveSomeIntrospect · 24/07/2023 21:02

i would ask my friend,

LumpyPumpkin · 24/07/2023 21:05

I would expect paying for that. It's not exactly a normal commute to work. You parked as close as you could and had heavy bags to carry presumably equipment or thing required for the role.

BarbaraofSeville · 24/07/2023 21:17

Yes, you need to ask your friend. No-one on here knows what they were planning to pay you for.

I would say you should be paid for the car park trek, (your commute is from home to the site) especially if you were carrying equipment, ie still working.

Your friend may disagree, but there's a lot of exploitation of goodwill in the festival industry because 'rock and roll' and all that.

Passe · 24/07/2023 22:42

Thank you. You're all right, I should just ask! Something I've never been very good at and all the more awkward as it's a friend.

Am inclined to present my hours and say I've calculated them from the point Life360 shows I've entered/left the site. That way there is evidence of how king the walk took.

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entitledparents · 24/07/2023 22:43

If it was 5 mins I'd say no pay but 45 min carrying stuff equals pay

titchy · 24/07/2023 22:46

If the job involved carrying stuff from the car park to the tent then yes of course you include it. You obvs wouldn't include the time to travel to the car park. But the second you are given something to carry is the second you start work.

Passe · 24/07/2023 22:47

entitledparents · 24/07/2023 22:43

If it was 5 mins I'd say no pay but 45 min carrying stuff equals pay

Agreed, no way I'd claim for a short daytime stroll carrying a light work bag!

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Passe · 24/07/2023 22:55

titchy · 24/07/2023 22:46

If the job involved carrying stuff from the car park to the tent then yes of course you include it. You obvs wouldn't include the time to travel to the car park. But the second you are given something to carry is the second you start work.

We weren't carrying heavy things every night but still several items and a good 45 min walk in rain/mud/pitch black.
The car parks and camping areas alone were about 5 times the size of the actual festival and I was far from impressed with the competency of many of the late night festival staff

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HarrietSchulenberg · 24/07/2023 23:46

If you were catering at Bluedot, my DS would thank you from the bottom of his heart for feeding him as he forgot his stove so struggled to liquidise his Pot Noodle collection. He'd thank you even more if you were the stall selling either the salt and pepper fries or the mini spring rolls as he's only just stopped talking about them.

IdSell · 24/07/2023 23:50

I'd expect to be paid for that.

Sugarfree23 · 24/07/2023 23:56

I'd expect paid from the time to got out the car to back in it.
45min walk is probably 2 miles.

BarbaraofSeville · 25/07/2023 05:44

Passe · 24/07/2023 22:55

We weren't carrying heavy things every night but still several items and a good 45 min walk in rain/mud/pitch black.
The car parks and camping areas alone were about 5 times the size of the actual festival and I was far from impressed with the competency of many of the late night festival staff

It's not the fault of the stewards and even security staff. See my previous comment about there being a lot of exploitation in the industry.

They're just about all casual agency staff on low paid zero hours contracts or even volunteers. Training and supervision will be minimal.

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