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Financial Infidelity???

11 replies

Pomabroad · 24/07/2023 02:56

A husband and wife want to go back to the mother land to visit friends and family - first time in over a decade! (visit is for one month!) Husband earns twice as much as wife and has more disposable income left over after the bills are paid.

Wife books the and pays for all the flights a huge amount leaving her with nothing for a few months. Husband agrees in the interest of fairness, he will provide the spending money (more to that later). In fact in one instance she asks for some of the surplus in the account back so she can meet her financial obligations, Husband says no the money is needed in the joint account. Wife believed him and left it there and struggled on to meet the payments.

Wife later finds out that the husband has been transferring money out of the joint account to his personal account. Wife stated that it was stealing, but the husband says it wasn't - it was his money anyway! Wife also pays into the joint account. First AIBU - is this stealing when both parties pay into joint account?

Husband then keeps changing his story about how much he has saved figures stated ranging from a few thousand to a few hundred. He had 25 weeks ( 5 months) to save this money.

2 weeks before the trip, wife then says we will use the money he saved for cash for spending money, husband then admits he only has a couple of hundred for spending money. Husband can't see why the wife is upset as he believes they can use the credit card. Credit card usage was not discussed as an option, agreement was husband save the spending money.

Husband says he will use the credit card, but when asked what the budget was couldn't answer. In fact had no idea how much money was needed or what the availability was on the credit card.

Wife rescues him again and talks him through day by day the events and provides a rough idea of how much is needed. This does not include shopping trips, day trips etc. - just food and drink money. Wife disappointed that a small trip husband promised can no longer go ahead, due to no money.

Wife agrees to reduce the mortgage payment for 2 months (July/August) resulting in a small amount of spending money available. This alone will cost thousands in interest over the term of the mortgage, and has put a delay in clearing the mortgage. Wife very upset and distressed about this. Husband said he hadn't factored in the long term implications of not paying the increased amount for two months.

Husband then says he is going to get a loan, again putting the family in financial debt.

Wife eventually agrees, though is still very upset and distressed and frustrated that she finds herself in this situation again. There is too many examples of this including hidden credit cards which were only found out when buying a house!

Husband then asks the wife if he can secure the loan against her car.

Wife said no - AIBU?

OP posts:
Domino20 · 24/07/2023 03:00

Sounds like the wife needs to take over family finances.

ZolaBudd · 24/07/2023 03:25

TLDR

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 24/07/2023 03:26

Wife needs to cancel the plane tickets & use money for a divorce.

Where is this motherland?

greenspaces4peace · 24/07/2023 03:36

he's irresponsible a liar and a thief.
i read it on mn time and time again how couples have separate accounts and time and time again it suits the men much better than the women who time and time again are carrying the burden of the children's needs along with their own.
unfortunately this wouldn't be happening in my life as this would have been a deal breaker on the day we moved in together, it would have been dealt with long ago.

crew2022 · 24/07/2023 04:04

This sort of thing happened to meet in the past. I seriously considered leaving. It's about trust, not the money.
Instead I took over everything and was cited on all accounts.
We recovered financially after years of being careful and paying off debts he'd covered up.
Even now I ask to see his credit card statement and savings balance.

mathanxiety · 24/07/2023 04:14

Wife needs to leave this bastard who is clearly gambling away the family resources.

She needs to deliver an ultimatum - she sees all the records of his personal account for the last two years or the marriage is over.

SunRainStorm · 24/07/2023 04:19

Why word this in the third person? You are clearly the wife.

Yeah your husband is losing money somehow, lying to you about it and it's having very real adverse consequences in multiple aspects of your life.

But you know all that.

Obviously you aren't being unreasonable.

Is he in debt you don't know about?

Time for an ultimatum or a divorce IMO.

Jenypenny · 24/07/2023 05:00

Wife is clearly being taken for a ride because she is carrying the financial burden in the relationship.

Husband is probably just using her for money.

saffronsoup · 24/07/2023 05:07

Neither of these people appear to have any financial literacy. Both should share the financial responsibility for the family.

Apparently neither budget or plan. If buying plane tickets wipes you clean for months then you need to have a better savings strategy so that doesn't happen.

It seems they both just spend what they earn and have no money left over to actually plan or live life.

A good match. At least both are financially irresponsible.

Jenypenny · 24/07/2023 05:14

Husband then asks the wife if he can secure the loan against her car.

How dare he even ask!! .. He agreed in the interest of fairness, he will provide the spending money after you paid for the flights.. now he's saying he's saved only a couple of hundred in 5 months (for a month long trip).

He's dishonest, selfish and untrustworthy. If he earns twice your salary why do you have bail him out?

What is he doing with the money he's supposed to be earning.?

This behaviour should be a deal breaker for you. Strengthen your boundaries in this relationship because he's obviously taking you for a ride.

Sunnyjac · 24/07/2023 06:35

This marriage is dead I the water

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