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That there is no good option for a political party any more

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FinallyPeakedNow · 22/07/2023 17:17

I am a wokey lefty liberal. I can't stand the current government, I voted remain, think Boris is a joke, etc etc. In theory I should be happy that Labour will win the next election.

However

I believe trans women are men. I was shocked to discover (but then as I understand it, back in 2009, so was she) that Caster Semenye is male. This information has been successfully withheld from public consciousness. The general public are still under the impression she is biologically female.

A newly minted Labour MP has just described Germaine Greer as an 'abhorrent transphobe.'

Also

I am a fan of education, and think it should be free, and good quality, for everyone. But. If private schools are subjected to VAT, studies have shown that thousands of kids will enter the state sector, as a good number of parents won't be able to afford the fees any more.

It's a shit system, created by a-holes, but currently, families with children in private schools (and those who pay for private healthcare, side note) are paying, with taxes, for state provision and not using it. If they decide in great numbers to use it, quality will go down, not up. I say let them have their fancy little clubs, it helps us all. Pressure is on now for employers and universities to discriminate against private schools anyway so I don't see the privately educated as a threat - unless they all turn up at the school gates in droves and demand to be accommodated.

So I cannot vote Conservative, and Labour have ruled themselves out by being patronising and thick. If I vote Green, without proportional representation it is simply a protest vote.

AIBU to not bother at all?

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Bluevelvetsofa · 22/07/2023 17:21

I too, feel disenfranchised and that there is no one to vote for that will make a positive difference.

PR would encourage me much more, but just now it really is a protest vote or a spoiled ballot paper.

grafittiartist · 22/07/2023 17:23

Yep. Really difficult isn't it. Makes me angry really.
I do try to remind myself that there will be different opinions within a party, and that a "best fit" is as good as you could vote for.

HeadNorth · 22/07/2023 17:26

Don’t vote Green. In Scotland at least they don’t seem to give a fig about the environment and are obsessed with the latest woke issue - absolute waste of space. At least a Labour vote will bring about some change and there are some grown ups in the party (and I don’t see why private schools should be exempt from VAT, personally).

maddening · 22/07/2023 17:27

I am voting for the party of women - would be a lib dem voter normally but they are worse than labour now. Can't and never have voted tory and the greens are a bunch of dicks.

twentyonepoundnote · 22/07/2023 17:28

I vote Green - I know they won't get in, but every green vote sends a message to the government about the priorities of the electorate.

FinallyPeakedNow · 22/07/2023 17:35

The VAT on private schools is a red herring vote winner, and the government knows this as they have been advised by top economists that it won't work in reality, or that its impact will be minimal. A bit like the red bus with the ludicrous claims of NHS money being saved by Boris. They throw these figures around and we just go, oh yeah sounds about right, tick that box then. Actually, each state school place costs the government around 6k a year, money which is allocated according to how many children are in the school. They won't be able to increase per-pupil spend with the VAT money. Yes, the pot of money will be bigger, but it will likely all go on educating the previously privately educated.

Seems to make sense until you think about it for a moment. A bit like, IMO, the phrase 'trans women are women' which I only started to think about properly quite recently.

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FinallyPeakedNow · 22/07/2023 17:39

Oh look I already referred to Labour as 'the government.' sigh

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KateJohns · 22/07/2023 17:43

I'll see what the options are when the GE comes around but..

Tories - Hate the poor and I'm poor.
Labour - Hate women and I quite like women, especially the Adult Human Female variety.
Greens - Chanellor issues still leave bad tastes.
Lib Dems - Ed Davey is a fully paid up member of the Stonewall Facts Of Biology And Gender, so he can go fuck himself and call himself a Selfsexual.
If there's a KJK party candidate, they'll get my vote.

luckylavender · 22/07/2023 17:46

HeadNorth · 22/07/2023 17:26

Don’t vote Green. In Scotland at least they don’t seem to give a fig about the environment and are obsessed with the latest woke issue - absolute waste of space. At least a Labour vote will bring about some change and there are some grown ups in the party (and I don’t see why private schools should be exempt from VAT, personally).

Yes don't vote Green. You should see what a Green Council has done to Brighton. And Brighton was recently declared one of the least 'green' cities in the UK.

QueenoftheNimbleFlyingCat · 22/07/2023 17:48

I feel you. However, labour is marginally better for the whole of society so I will hold my nose and vote for them. I will never vote Tory (Lib Dems and Greens can fuck off with their non man shit).

TheUsualChaos · 22/07/2023 18:30

Labour is at least starting to read the room a bit better re TWAW than Lib Dem and Green.

Hufflepods · 22/07/2023 18:34

YABU labour is better for the majority of society as a whole compared to the conservatives and it’s frankly disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

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