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Original poster

24 hours in A&E

65 replies

1down · 19/07/2023 21:47

How do they get the unwell or injured patients concent? Do they film first then ask?
Watching it ATM and a lad has been taken to the hospital after being run over. He was airlifted in. In no condition to agree to something. So do they film all his medical stuff to the point he can say yes and if he says no they then delete?? His family didn't get to the hospital till an hour later. And they can't give his permission anyway.
Because if it happens like that it seems like a total violation of his privacy.
Anyone know?

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MoggyMittens23 · 19/07/2023 21:51

Don't KNOW but would assume they film then ask after. But, it's a bit weird isn't it? Not sure I would be happy if that was a family memboer

Leo227 · 19/07/2023 21:51

at St George's once when I went there were signs everywhere saying filming was taking place, so they must film a bit of it and then ask consent when possible

KatieB55 · 19/07/2023 21:52

I was once asked to consent and declined. It was very hard not to be filmed going into A&E.

Overlycautiousbynature · 19/07/2023 21:53

It's a gross invasion of privacy having that choice taken away from you when you're vulnerable

Rocketpants50 · 19/07/2023 21:56

Slightly different- my brother and wife were filmed for one born every minute as they were rushed in and in heat of moment said yes. Afterwards they were asked again if they consented, had to film the before bits and were shown what was going out on TV- at any point they could pull their consent.

Original poster
1down · 19/07/2023 21:59

Overlycautiousbynature · 19/07/2023 21:53

It's a gross invasion of privacy having that choice taken away from you when you're vulnerable

My thoughts exactly.

If someone is in a condition that means they have been airlifted in, they will very probably not be in a condition to give any informed concent.

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Wishitsnows · 19/07/2023 21:59

I guess the one benefit is you won’t get ignored or treated like rubbish when they are filming and you could withdraw consent after

Stressedout1980 · 19/07/2023 22:02

They hovered in Childrens A and E when my daughter has a head injury 5 years ago. We said no a few times but she was more interesting than the sore hand and potentially twisted ankle apparently due to the blood and uniform she had on. I guess with U18’s you just need parental consent

FireEngineGeorge · 19/07/2023 22:03

Years ago my uncle was rushed to hospital with a heart attack, he died in a&e. Cameras were trying to film the doctors trying to help him and my aunty basically told them to fuck off as obviously she was distraught. I don't know what show it was for. I'd hope a lot has changed since then, it was a long time ago.

XenoBitch · 19/07/2023 22:04

Disclaimer - not the same program, but similar.

999: Whats Your Emergency has been filmed where I live several times. I used to be under the police radar as I suffered a lot of MH crisis (in public) a lot. I was told that the film crew would film anyway, then get consent later. I was lucky in that I was unwell during times the film crews were not about. I have a couple of friends who ended up on the program. One of them (it was a phone call) wanted her voice disguised. They didn't do it, and when the program was aired, her phone went crazy with people calling her asking if it was indeed her.

Abouttimemum · 19/07/2023 22:08

I’ve filmed with lots of crews over the years for these types of programme and they’ll always get written consent. I’ve just done some for a BBC documentary and everyone interviewed had to sign release forms for the footage to be used. I can’t talk for the specific 24 hours in A&E production company though.

mynameiscalypso · 19/07/2023 22:13

My SIL was going to work on the show at one point, I'm pretty sure they film everything and then get consent. Most of the stories have some follow up / filming at home don't they? In which case, I assume they know that they consented if you see what I mean. You sometimes see blurred out faces in the background of people who clearly didn't consent. My SIL decided not to take the job because the consent/admin was so much.

Hibiscrubbed · 19/07/2023 22:17

The ones in the waiting room are consented early on. That’s why they’re wearing microphones, often, and stay stupid stuff for attention. The resus patients are all generally filmed as there’s cameras all over the department, but unless they and their relatives give consent once they’re able to, they do not use the footage and will do nothing to identify them. They are filmed by very small, very discreet cameras. No crews. The filming is very focused and narrow. If a patient is particularly unwell, unlikely to have a good outcome, they’re not filmed at all.

Tinkerbyebye · 19/07/2023 22:18

Try google that will tell you how it’s obtained

Original poster
1down · 19/07/2023 22:28

I think my issue with it is that it has already been filmed before the person is able to concent. So their privacy has already been invaded.
Seems incredibly insensitive

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XenoBitch · 19/07/2023 22:31

1down · 19/07/2023 22:28

I think my issue with it is that it has already been filmed before the person is able to concent. So their privacy has already been invaded.
Seems incredibly insensitive

I totally agree!

Elphame · 19/07/2023 22:33

1down · 19/07/2023 22:28

I think my issue with it is that it has already been filmed before the person is able to concent. So their privacy has already been invaded.
Seems incredibly insensitive

Completely agree. There is no way I would ever consent to being filmed.

CarrieO · 19/07/2023 22:36

I was in St George’s A&E a few years ago. There were signs up everywhere. They asked if I consented to being filmed and I said no - I felt far too ill!

I agree it feels worth to film people without consent even if the footage won’t be shown.

CarrieO · 19/07/2023 22:36

Wrong not worth!

Prescottdanni123 · 19/07/2023 22:41

Personally, I would hate being filmed and would feel violated if someone filmed me unconscious or incapcitated to the point where I didn't know what was going on around me or couldn't consent.

Another thing that makes me uncomfortable is that the people sat at home watching don't want to see a whole series of broken ankles and mild concussions. Whenever a serious or interesting case is brought in, the producers and camera men must be jumping up and down with excitement. And I just keep thinking 'That is a human being lying there. Vulnerable and terrified'.

Lisdeflores · 19/07/2023 22:45

Perhaps there should be a box on our medical records, -I do/don't consent to bring filmed during my stay in hospital.
I would hate it, my pain being presented as entertainment
I often wonder why the hospitals agree to it I presume they make money out of it

XenoBitch · 19/07/2023 22:46

Lisdeflores · 19/07/2023 22:45

Perhaps there should be a box on our medical records, -I do/don't consent to bring filmed during my stay in hospital.
I would hate it, my pain being presented as entertainment
I often wonder why the hospitals agree to it I presume they make money out of it

That wont make much different to the series that get material outside of hospital... ambulance crews and the like.

TheWayoftheLeaf · 19/07/2023 22:52

I don't know but I think it's unethical of them to film people receiving medical treatment. If I was in a major accident I wouldn't want random footage being taken even if they asked consent before airing it.

Lisdeflores · 19/07/2023 23:00

I agree it is unethical .
I wonder if you would have any legal recourse if you were brought in unconscious or unable to give informed consent and filming took place. Even if that film never made it to the tv its still an invasion of privacy.

loobylou10 · 19/07/2023 23:04

'Try google that will tell you how it’s obtained'

Helpful! Added so much to the discussion.