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i most likely am but this is getting on my nerves

38 replies

2shoes · 25/02/2008 15:21

ds is in yr 11. so we are having the big push to get all coursework in.
now he has always hated humanities. We were very disapointed to find he couldn't drop it in yr 10 but had to do(bless the goverment)
he also has a crap teacher.
so the upshot is he has wasted 2 years done sweet f all and there is no way he will pass.
somehow teacher seems to think he will catch up on his coursework (2ys worth) he won't.

the thing that gets me is surely when it becomes clear that there is no way they are going to even get a pass, rather than waste the time why can't they use that lesson time on another suject that they satnd a hope of passing?

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Pixiefish · 25/02/2008 15:25

You'd be surprised at how they CAN actually get coursework in even at this late stage.

I teach English and used to do catch up in Feb half term week. If the teacher is willing to help or if you are able to guide him then it is possible and it is possible for him to pass

2shoes · 25/02/2008 15:29

trouble is he is not willing he HATES it so much.
I just think it is a shame that he can't spend the time doing one of the other sujects he is doing.
i had the same thing at school with needlework(showing my age) and in the end the teacher let me sit quietly and do other work.

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/02/2008 15:29

They have to be in that lesson because there probably isn't anywhere else for them to go.

And I agree with Pixiefish that you can still get coursework done even now.

I know you don't like the teacher, but could you go and talk to him yourself and get the lowdown on what he needs to do.

And a good revision guide can also do wonders when it comes to passing the exam, much as it pains me to admit it!

fryalot · 25/02/2008 15:30

is he likely to pass his other exams? does he actually need to pass humanities in order to be able to say he has got a gcse?

wonders whether the humanities teacher would bother if shoeboy sat at the back of the class and revised a different subject as long as he didn't disrupt the class>>>

TheFallenMadonna · 25/02/2008 15:31

Sorry, x post.

I think I would still be encouraging him to just knuckle down and get it done.

It's only another couple of months.

2shoes · 25/02/2008 16:48

squonk. ds has tried even..........working in class he still gets told of

I hope by the time your dc's get to this age the goverment haave stopped forcing them to do humanities(assuming they are younger than ds if not you will know what I mean)

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hanaflower · 25/02/2008 16:51

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kayzisbroody · 25/02/2008 16:56

They must have changed it since I was at school(only 6 years ago) you didnt have to do a humantie, but I did as they were my fave subjects.

I'd do it for him if it wasn't cheating.

We didnt have to do anything except english, maths and science. All the rest were our choice.

2shoes · 25/02/2008 17:00

i liked it. but he just isn't interested in RE and finds the history that they teach uninteresting. it seems such a waste that they are forced to do it.

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PenelopePitstops · 25/02/2008 17:07

not sure if yabu but feel sorry for your ds

did my gcses about 4 years ago and for a lot of the class they were a waste of time, they would have been better off doing apprentiships in all manner of practical skills.

What coursework is it exactly?

you wouldnt believe how if your ds can scrape something together at least he will get something.

what history is he doing?

2shoes · 25/02/2008 17:12

it is only this subject he is talking about. he is doing loads of other gcse's and this is the one he will need the least in the future.

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Pixiefish · 26/02/2008 08:28

Having read the rest of your comments I'd go and ask his head of year if he could do other work in that lesson. Far better for him not to be entered - it's better for the school and the teacher as well as he won't bring their grades down.

I know of teachers who used to do this for non core subjects like History

colditz · 26/02/2008 08:31

I found Humanities an interesting and useful subject, actually. It teaches you to think about the evidence you are presented with, and the reliability of the sources.

I didn't get most of my coursework in, but still got a D. It's worth a shot. He should try, at least.

Upwind · 26/02/2008 08:41

It won't be easy, but then, nothing worthwhile is. It is not his favorite subject but doing the work, with your encouragement, might well broaden his horizons.

YABU

twinsetandpearls · 26/02/2008 08:42

You may find this is the schools way of keeping the law in terms of compulsory Religious Education. I would just get him to do the coursework i bet it could be done no one weekend day. Part of growing up is doing the odd thing if does not want to do and meeting deadlines. It is am extra qualificating to add to the list.

ItsGrimUpNorth · 26/02/2008 08:46

There were loads of subjects I hated at school but that's part of school - teaching you that not only do you have to do things you like but things you don't like too. And lots of things may seem useless but learning how to study is vital too, don't forget.

Can't believe his teacher didn't pull him up in two years for doing no course work! That's abysmal. No wonder he feels overloaded and panicked.

I'd sit down, work out what exactly needs to be done and get the boy through it as best I could.

twinsetandpearls · 26/02/2008 08:46

For what is is worth i dont think that students should be forced to take a gcse in a subject other than english and maths. I think to be honest if he has wasted two years of lesson time that is a behaviour issue.

twinsetandpearls · 26/02/2008 08:47

I agree it should have been sorted by now.

SheikYerbouti · 26/02/2008 08:54

I symnpathise with your DS,

I was forced to do RE GCSE, and was made to feel like a failure by my evil RE teacher for getting a C

They wanted me to drop Music GCSE instead, so I could concentrate on RE (double ) as it was more academic. Nevcer mind the fact I was brill at Music and wanted to study it at uni (which I did do)

I was in a similar situation re. coursework. I had loads to do in Feb - I did it with a bit of bribery from my mum. I think she saiod something like do it this weekend, and next weekend we will go somewhere nice, which we did

Don;t let him, not do it - sometimes we have to do things to a deadline we might not enjoy or thatn we might not be good at (for me, it's my annual tax return )

He will feel much better for having done it, even if he doesn't pass, otherwise it will pray on his mind. He might even surprise himself and get a better markj than he expecyed.

2shoes · 26/02/2008 08:54

this is the bit I don't understand..
he is taking about 8 gcse's
I can understand that he will need English and Mathe's and so can he. the subjects he chose no problems with. he is good at science so that is ok. the subject he has struggled with is English so I have given him loads of support and encouragement with that as whatever he does in the future he will need it.
so sorry to say if he now spends loads of time on humanities he will then get behind with the other more important subjects.

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2shoes · 26/02/2008 08:56

oh I have said to him. do it and try in the exam just to get one up on teach(who he doesn't like) I have tried everything except bribery.

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Upwind · 26/02/2008 09:12

Don't "humanities" include history and philosophy? Can you really not imagine how a background in those subjects will benefit him?

Maybe it would be worth you reviewing the material yourself! Perhaps he has picked up on your negative attitude to the subject?

2shoes · 26/02/2008 11:58

i will have a chat to hime. tahnks for the advice.

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cory · 26/02/2008 12:10

All a bit different for me, as I grew up in Sweden where we certainly did not have the option of dropping subjects we didn't like (not even foreign languages). And I believe the French bacchalaureat is similar.

The idea behind it is that people who have a vote need a certain basic understanding of how society works. We live in a democracy and that means civic responsibilities.

Still, at this stage, and looking at your ds's particular situation, there is the risk of a last-ditch attempt to catch up now taking time from subjects he has a better chance with. So it might be worth just cutting his losses.

On the other hand, you have to understand that the school can't suddenly provide a new teacher to take extra classes, particularly not for a teenager who has sat on this problem for 2 years without taking any responsibility for it. There just isn't that amount of extra money going around.

I would sit down with your ds and discuss the whole thing with him in a very matter-of-fact way. Explain how various choices (trying to catch up, cutting your losses etc) may affect his future career prospects.

Also, make sure you mention that in any job he chooses, there will be times when his boss tells him to do something he finds difficult and pointless, and that if he doesn't do it to the best of his ability he will find himself out of a job. This is grown-up life. But mention this once- don't go on and on about it.

duchesse · 26/02/2008 12:29

2shoes, I have to say this, but you did have a similar thread a while ago about another teacher swearing "out of the blue" at your son.

I'm afraid to say that I completely agree with twinset- it sounds as though your son is quite seriously badly behaved at school, and his teacher sound rather stressed to me. If his teachers had any kind of sympathy for him (ie if they thought he was trying hard but being held up by xxx problem, they would definitely help him (as seems to be the case in English- but bear in mind that maths and english are a compulsory part of the league tables now, so school are very keen on getting pupils up to a C in those subjects).

I am sorry, but yet again I have to say I think your son has been messing around big time. The only worry is why the school has not been more proactive in contacting to get it sorted out. If he pulls his socks up and starts taking responsibility for himself and his work, it is not too late, as others have said. Sounds like a basic attitude problem though I'm afraid.