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to stop calling the police

31 replies

empatheticpretzel · 15/07/2023 16:28

Last month I reported hearing long-term domestic violence from a neighbour, although I'm not sure which neighbour. There is CCTV in the landings, and after a particularly bad incident caught on camera, they were traced and arrested. I took a witness statement the following day and was told the woman was given a safe place to live but couldn't know where it was coming from exactly/names for data protection.
A few weeks later the woman had obviously returned as I could hear the abuse from the same location during the usual hours in the night. Every single night. I report to the emergency police and it is new officers each time who can't immediately access details of the previous case/doesn't know which neighbour it is and ask if I know who it is/if i dont know who it is how do I know its the same person/I cant speculate. When they get here they go knocking on all the doors and nobody answers. They then leave unable to do anything.
Because I have called that often and they are never able to find anything, they have asked if there's anything I need help with. They were polite about it but are they implying there is something wrong with my head?

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ForeverFriendsAndPierrot · 15/07/2023 16:32

Well what do you want to have happen?

BiscuitsandPuffin · 15/07/2023 16:34

Yes I had similar where I reported my NDN three times in the space of 6 months for drug dealing and beating up a woman, they couldn't have been more rude or less helpful. They came out once and gave me a leaflet about some support for people who have frequent contact with the police?!

Several years after we moved out, I saw in the news that they had finally busted them for having a meth lab and trafficking women.

Could have done it years earlier if they'd actually listened to me and investigated instead of assuming I was the problem.

Just leave it. You've done your best and if the authorities aren't going to actually investigate I don't see what more you can do. That poor woman though.

Annaishere · 15/07/2023 16:35

You can’t stop this woman being in abusive relationships

MaxwellCat · 15/07/2023 16:35

Have you posted about this before? No I wouldn’t call unless kids were involved tbh

empatheticpretzel · 15/07/2023 16:41

I haven't posted about this before. The neighbour has no idea who has been reporting them and goes round the doors banging on them and shouting abuse. I think this is a lost cause and I don't want to get involved anymore

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ForeverFriendsAndPierrot · 15/07/2023 16:47

Ok so don't

x2boys · 15/07/2023 16:50

empatheticpretzel · 15/07/2023 16:41

I haven't posted about this before. The neighbour has no idea who has been reporting them and goes round the doors banging on them and shouting abuse. I think this is a lost cause and I don't want to get involved anymore

So dont.

KrisAkabusi · 15/07/2023 16:57

If it's the same location every night, why can't you go outside and find out exactly what flat the noise is coming from? You don't have to do anything there, just go back to your home and say that a woman is being assaulted in number 10. That removes all the need for searching through previous reports etc. And keep phoning every time it happens.

KrisAkabusi · 15/07/2023 16:58
  • back home and phone the police to say...
BeverlyHa · 15/07/2023 16:59

yes, they treat you in this way, because APPARENTLY THE WOMAN HERSELF WHO IS BEATED DOES NOT OPEN THE DOOR. so they are left with you to deal with, because you called them. Sounds stupid but you keep ringing them, so they might well ask you.

OddsOff · 15/07/2023 17:25

The amount of women that return even with intervention is very high. From an outside perspective it’s very hard to understand but they are co dependant unhealthy relationships that are not remotely normal. It takes about 36 violent attacks before women leave sadly. Domestic violence cost something like 64 billion per year, NHS is something like 106 billion to give it some perspective. I know some police officers and most of their time is spent dealing with DV and MH issues which is why people get really irritated with burglary cases not getting as much priority.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 15/07/2023 17:27

If they’re implying you’re making it up can you video the sounds?

empatheticpretzel · 15/07/2023 17:34

ForeverFriendsAndPierrot · 15/07/2023 16:47

Ok so don't

Are you my neighbour? You've been impolite for no reason

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Jazsimone · 15/07/2023 18:54

Our old next door neighbour used to be physically abusive to his wife. One night she was screaming so I went outside to see if I could see anything. He was on top of her (I won't say what he was doing) but I called the police and he was arrested. This case ended up in court, just before the wife was about to go and give evidence, she turned to me and said "thank you for everything but no matter the outcome today I will be going home with him as he is my life".

It broke me because I thought I was helping but until she is ready to leave she won't.

Sometimes you can't help.

Suzi89 · 15/07/2023 19:03

@OddsOff

It takes about 36 violent attacks before women leave sadly. Domestic violence cost something like 64 billion per year, NHS is something like 106 billion to give it some perspective.

These are the most ridiculous made up stats I have ever read in my life. First off women on average leave after 9 incidents of violence, and please provide a source for your ridiculous 64 billion claim. I’m pretty sure the entire yearly budget for all policing is much less than that.

Thunderisntnicebythebeach · 15/07/2023 19:07

Why not report online every time instead of ringing?

ThePoshUns · 15/07/2023 20:23

Are you council practice HA? If so I'd report to them as well. They have their own DV teams and they may get involved

ThePoshUns · 15/07/2023 20:23

Sorry council or HA

DontMowMyMeadow · 15/07/2023 20:28

Cannot believe some of the replies on here.
Callous beyond belief.
Keep reporting, if you feel able.
You may save her life.

DontMowMyMeadow · 15/07/2023 20:37

The day this bastard killed her she went begging for help from her neighbours, but because she had returned to him repeatedly they all refused to help her.
He tortured and killed her in front of their surviving child and his mother. None of which was reported by the press.
He terrorised the local community. I know, I was on the receiving end of it. I've never got over the guilt of not helping her.
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/1250536.killer-freed-2009/

Killer could be freed in 2009

A sadistic killer who savagely beat up his estranged partner before drowning her in the bath could be free in less than three years, a judge ruled.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/1250536.killer-freed-2009

x2boys · 15/07/2023 20:37

DontMowMyMeadow · 15/07/2023 20:28

Cannot believe some of the replies on here.
Callous beyond belief.
Keep reporting, if you feel able.
You may save her life.

But if she won't leave how does that.help her?

UndercoverCop · 15/07/2023 20:42

Hi OP , if you want to you can call 101 during office hours, ask to speak to the DAPST or DAIT (different terms in different areas) domestic abuse problem solving team or domestic abuse investigation team.
Explain to them what you have here, that you don't want police to think you are calling unnecessarily, but you are hearing this regularly, a female from the block was taken to refuge/place of safety previously but is clearly back. That different officers attend each time and don't have access to the previous incidents. They will then be able to look into it as an ongoing pattern.
Also ask if there is a reference number is best for you to quote when you call during an incident so attending officers have an idea of what they're attending.

UndercoverCop · 15/07/2023 20:42

The above teams offer victim support, idva, disclosures etc as well as standard policing and Investigations

Bellasignora · 15/07/2023 20:44

x2boys · 15/07/2023 20:37

But if she won't leave how does that.help her?

Because if something dreadful happens to this person and people throw brickbats at the police for 'not doing anything', it can be shown that reports were made and the alleged victim wouldn't leave.

The police probably have a file on this person and are very well aware of the situation but can't take action without the cooperation of the alleged victim.

You can't make someone leave an abusive partner.

LePetitChat · 15/07/2023 20:47

x2boys · 15/07/2023 20:37

But if she won't leave how does that.help her?

It helps her because the next call the OP males might save her life. Or it might not, but one day it might. DV is very complicated but the less intervention there is the less likely she is to ever be free.