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To expect my year 6 child to be taught until the end of term

182 replies

fartfacenotfatface · 11/07/2023 15:37

DC3 is in year 6. With the exception of a couple of days a few weeks ago when Ofsted were in, they have done precisely no academic work since half term (and actually probably a bit before that, once SATs had finished).
Literally every day has revolved around practicing for the end of year production and / or going outside to play (unstructured) sport (although they had a residential trip a couple of weeks ago).
DC is not really into drama so has a very minor part in the school play (I'm fine with this but I am not fine with them having to sit quietly in the hall for the vast majority of each day watching the key performers practice their parts all day everyday with nothing else to do).
They are completely and utterly bored. Is this normal for year 6 children once the SATs are out the way? My elder DC didn't do SATs (DC1 was not at state school in England and DC2 was in a covid year) and so were taught until almost the last week of term.
I am tempted to take DC out to be honest. Their behaviour is getting bad as they're so frustrated at doing nothing all day everyday.

OP posts:
pinkhousesarebest · 11/07/2023 17:21

We’d be crucified if this happened in our school( not UK) by both parents and principal. Our program goes right up to the last day. It makes it so much easier to keep a tight ship too.

TheOnlyMrsW · 11/07/2023 17:22

@Hereinthismoment you'd get my vote too - very little skin in the game now as DD17 is in yr12 but we largely get better weather in late June & July and only commented last week that this would be a better time to have the long holiday!

OP I feel for you, I remember after SATs not being particularly academic but they did outside things, went on a residential, cycling proficiency, taster days at their next school etc

MrsALambert · 11/07/2023 17:22

We are still on full timetable. We have a lot of different transition days as our children go to a lot of different secondaries but if they are in school they are working. Next week they are off timetable doing enterprise activities but I was in there today and the were doing American history. Behaviour would be out of control if we lost the structure

alexisccd · 11/07/2023 17:29

2mummies1baby · 11/07/2023 16:19

Year 6 teacher here- this is totally normal. The children will have been worked very very hard up until the SATs, with the promise of fun activities (like a school play and a residential) afterwards. There are plenty of arguments for whether this is a good or bad thing, but I don't know any school which doesn't do it.

Would you really have all year 6 kids in the rehearsal room for the whole day bar lunch time for three weeks? Even if that child (well bulk of kids) had v limited involvement in the production?

That is what is happening in OPs DC school - not what I think is more the norm which is a mix of different less academic learning or fun activities and a celebration of school life as they move on from the school.

fartfacenotfatface · 11/07/2023 17:29

theresnolimits · 11/07/2023 16:41

I’m shocked at how many people think this is acceptable. I’d be livid especially with the focus on attendance in schools. What’s the point if they’re then going to sit about? Might as well have pulled them out for a holiday - without a fine!

School plays should not need all day/every day rehearsal. Perhaps a few afternoons when those children not majorly involved could be given structured tasks.

If schools don’t want to do traditional lessons there are lots of enrichment activities that can be delivered around project work. As a teacher I always found the ‘fun’ lessons made discipline much worse!

I’d be speaking to the teacher/team leader/head asap.

Thank you. I wouldn't mind the endless play rehearsals if there was something for DC to do besides sit. If they could help paint sets, organise costumes or even sit quietly and do some worksheets, that would be ok. But they are sat doing nothing and watching the others for 90% of the very long day in the hall, for THREE FUCKING WEEKS!

OP posts:
Pipsquiggle · 11/07/2023 17:29

Yep my son is in Yr6 and they've pretty much done drama, PE and art since SATs.

I'm not bothered though.

Interestingly, his secondary school have already mentioned that after SATs they have a lot of free time so they have sent reading lists for over the summer.

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2023 17:30

Sunnysunbun · 11/07/2023 15:43

You sound fun.

Exactly
My DD is 18 and still speaks fondly of the last few weeks of Y6

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 11/07/2023 17:30

Another vote for Hereinthismoment. I'm in secondary as well. A lot of bad moods, staff and students. A lot of detentions and even the odd exclusion. End of term can't come soon enough.

alexisccd · 11/07/2023 17:31

Quercus30 · 11/07/2023 16:25

People are talking about residential trips, drama, art, entrepreneur projects, sport and more. This all gets done after sats in year 6 as there is no time before hand. Perfectly normal.

But that isn't what is happening in the OP DC's school....

GoodChat · 11/07/2023 17:33

Macaroni46 · 11/07/2023 17:19

"There's no reason the children who aren't involved at that time can't be outside playing parachute games or running around or whatever."

Well there is one very good reason why they can't do this @GoodChat

It's called STAFFING!

Teachers the school hall, teaching assistants outside. Easy.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2023 17:37

They have to finish the Circulum by SATs. After that, it's up to the teachers. But what is the point in formal teaching at that point when they could do life skills stuff. The fact one child finds it boring isn't a measure. It could be life changing for other kids - especially the less academic ones. Learning to suck up 'boring situations' is a life skill in itself.

I'm sure if yr6s were doing on full on grammar and algebra until the end of term there'd be far more complaints.

Sunshineishere1988 · 11/07/2023 17:41

Ours haven’t done homework since Sats but have definately had normal lessons. They have done so much other stuff aswell - residential, school trips, sports day etc. I do think they want to give the kids a break after all the hard work towards Sats (ours had alot of extra homework before the exams).

I do think thats unusual to be in the drama hall all day so I would speak to the teacher about that. Never heard of that from any friends with kids in primary school and surely kids need the days broken up into different activities?

beeonmybonnett · 11/07/2023 17:43

cardibach · 11/07/2023 16:50

So how long is the term? In my (wearily extensive) experience any teaching period over 6 weeks descends into pointlessness because the pupils are knackered and have had enough.

Summer term in Northern Ireland begins after the Easter break (so usually mid to late April) and finishes the last week in June. Then it’s summer holidays from first week in July until last week in august / first week in September

Sunshineishere1988 · 11/07/2023 17:47

fartfacenotfatface · 11/07/2023 17:29

Thank you. I wouldn't mind the endless play rehearsals if there was something for DC to do besides sit. If they could help paint sets, organise costumes or even sit quietly and do some worksheets, that would be ok. But they are sat doing nothing and watching the others for 90% of the very long day in the hall, for THREE FUCKING WEEKS!

Agree-no school should put that much emphasis on a school play. Perhaps a few afternoons but the days need to be broken up into lots of different activities for all the kids. Its been sunny for weeks so plenty of opportunity for school trips, sports, walks etc. Ours have been outdoors so much.

JassyRadlett · 11/07/2023 17:47

I'm surprised by all the responses TBH! Ours seem to be trying to cram in loads of the stuff they don't have time for earlier in the year because they're spending so much time on pointless bloody SATS.

So yes, there are play rehearsals, one PE lesson is learning the group dances for the play, Art and DT are prop and set making. But they've done full new units in history and geography, extra computing stuff, PHSE stuff, a spot of science here and there.

Sugargliderwombat · 11/07/2023 17:50

They should be spending these weeks catching up on drama, art, d&t that sats inevitably kills

FcukTheDay · 11/07/2023 17:51

My DS is in Year 6 and hasn't had any new learning to do but he deserves a mental break as the lead up to SATs is hard-core. Doing nothing at points is what he needs.

Thegreatbigbarrieroflondon · 11/07/2023 17:52

I have a year 6 daughter and im glad she’s been able to spend a few weeks just having some fun.

Hereinthismoment · 11/07/2023 17:55

Thegreatbigbarrieroflondon · 11/07/2023 17:52

I have a year 6 daughter and im glad she’s been able to spend a few weeks just having some fun.

I think if they were spending lots of time on art, crafts, PE and music that’s a bit different, but I can see how the endless rehearsals are exhausting and depressing. I have memories of that myself from primary school - tedious as hell. Not forever though.

unicornhair · 11/07/2023 17:56

We knew our school would do nothing after STATS, so we booked a holiday. Unfortunately covid happened and put an end to that.
Unfortunately school didn’t think they had to provide any work then either as they were ‘finishing anyway’.

LlynTegid · 11/07/2023 17:59

I'm with you OP, and like the school where they do life skills, PE etc that are not about passing an exam (crafts etc).

purplepencilcase · 11/07/2023 18:06

Sunnysunbun · 11/07/2023 15:43

You sound fun.

Unnecessary.

These are valid concerns, I'd be raging.

skire · 11/07/2023 18:10

YABU

Macaroni46 · 11/07/2023 18:16

@GoodChat

"Teachers the school hall, teaching assistants outside. Easy."

Huge presumption there ...

Paq · 11/07/2023 18:22

YANBU. My DD was completely bored post SATS. The teachers seemed happy just to bimble along, there was a lot of watching movies and other nonsense. I don’t necessarily think they should have been hitting the books hard but the balance was off.

But I also fundamentally disagree with SATS and all that nonsense.