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to tell you that food that "doesn't go off" does go off

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Msplace · 09/07/2023 18:48

There's labels on food that tell you to use it within a period of time of being open. I was advised those labels didn't matter and if it smells ok it probably is, and they're just designed to make you buy more food more often make money. Don't listen to people who tell you this! This poor advice made me very ill.

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AlwaysTheSupplierNeverTheBride · 10/07/2023 22:55

PickoftheMix · 10/07/2023 17:52

The advice is to protect public health within the food industry to eliminate risk. What someone does in their own home risk wise is totally up to them, but in the food industry you can't just ignore the advice because "so and so has been eating it for decades and never been ill".

That would be like using the logic of "well Susan has been driving on the motorway at 90 mph for decades and never had an accident so it's fine".

Agreed; as a caterer I eat things that I would never in a million years serve to the general public.

If I make myself ill, I suffer. Risking making the general public ill is an entirely different thing.

AlwaysTheSupplierNeverTheBride · 10/07/2023 23:02

Wenfy · 10/07/2023 17:09

Ready sliced melons need to be washed before you eat them. This is a basic survival technique I learned in India.

If we're talking about India, or any other country where the water may not be clean, then the general rule is peel it, boil it, cook it or forget it.

I wouldn't eat, for instance, a salad in India, where it might have been washed in unclean water. I'd eat a melon that had been freshly sliced with a clean knife, but not one that had been sitting around for hours - too much risk of things like flies landing on it and bacteria growing; washing won't remove all pathogenic bacteria in such a scenario.

The one time in my life that I got food poisoning, I got a bit lax in India and drank a lassi - which is milk-based, and neither boiled, cooked nor peeled. Big mistake!

PeggyPoggle · 10/07/2023 23:29

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 09/07/2023 21:03

My fridge is cold though, around 2 degrees. I also never put a spoon back in the pot once the spoon has been in my mouth as you'd be introducing bacteria. How many spoons do you use to eat one yoghurt?

I've literally never even thought about this, like ever. Spoon gets taken out of the drawer, I scoop yoghurt out, eat it, then put my spoon back in for another, then put in fridge if there's some left.

I'm still alive.

I've also eaten open yoghurt after 5 days too. Again, fine.

User68253 · 10/07/2023 23:34

I very much doubt the yoghurt was the culprit. How do you know? But also people have vastly different tolerance levels for this kind of thing. If you've always been a stickler for the label rules you probably have very little tolerance.

Amybelle88 · 10/07/2023 23:53

Oh sod off 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

QueefQueen80s · 11/07/2023 09:36

Nah I'll still be going by my own smell and common sense, those dates just promote so much waste and get us to buy more of their products.

sevenbyseven · 11/07/2023 15:03

eveoha · 10/07/2023 18:42

Re watermelon 🍉 I abhor the things - the bloody unnatural granular texture 😐I have been vindicated re the cause of illness by a BBC article - she’s getting no more - plus in hindsight I should have contacted Asda as a person with a less robust immune system could have been made v ill - lesson learned

@eveoha So you didn't report it and therefore the watermelon presumably wasn't tested for EColi? How on earth do you know the watermelon was the cause of the illness then? Confused

Boriswentcamping · 11/07/2023 15:16

ShowOfHands · 09/07/2023 19:08

My mate is a microbiologist and always points out that the "sniff it" test is bollocks because the early stages of bacteria developing are not remotely detectable by humans either sniffing or tasting food. It can rule out some foods but not all of them. Her advice is to, well, follow the advice!

Agreed - Food standard agency advice is that the sniff test doesn't always work. this is because you can't smell some of the bacteria that make you poorly. Those who use this technique and "have been fine" are probably just lucky and it's a bit of a gamble. I've had food poisoning 3 times after eating out, so I am a bit more cautious. Yeo valley have removed the use in 3 days of opening from their yoghurt packaging and now say if it smells fine then it is safe to eat - but I'm. It convinced and I generally try stick within the 3 days of opening as yoghurt goes a bit sour after this time. I think the key is not buying too much in the first place then you don't have to take that gamble!

daisychain01 · 12/07/2023 07:09

@Boriswentcamping totally agree with not buying too much. I'm guilty of that with yoghurt, I overreact to the special offers because they've become so bloody expensive so anything that's showing as £1 off atm I've been sucked in! I'll take on board your comment 👍

Elephantinasandstorm · 12/07/2023 07:44

I have to disagree that yogurts are expensive. 1kg of Lancashire natural is 1.80in asda or thereabouts.
That's actually really cheap when I think about how much producing it takes. 😶

daisychain01 · 12/07/2023 08:04

We've all got used to cheap food and low inflation, its all comparative. I'm not arguing that it isn't good value but when you've been used to Rachel's yoghurt being £1.50 and now it's £2.90 it means that a special offer seems too good to ignore. Times that by all the other food shopping that has also increased and its a lot.

Aitchoo · 12/07/2023 09:08

All the home cooks must be really struggling without use by and best before dates on their food.

Have we really come to this?

Msplace · 12/07/2023 10:01

Since best befores dont matter anymore i get soggy salad leaves and rotting carrots. It makes me boke.

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Msplace · 12/07/2023 10:01

And moldy bread

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Elephantinasandstorm · 12/07/2023 10:15

Msplace · 12/07/2023 10:01

Since best befores dont matter anymore i get soggy salad leaves and rotting carrots. It makes me boke.

That's not date issue but quality. I had issues woth veg and ftuitfor about months now. Basically stopped shopping in supermarkets and shop in foreign shops for these.
That said, carrots last ages date or no date.
I think you might really look at your fridge ir the way you store things.
I had one in one remgal which curled milk in few days...

Elephantinasandstorm · 12/07/2023 10:15

*for about 9 months

EmeraldFox · 12/07/2023 21:59

Elephantinasandstorm · 12/07/2023 10:15

That's not date issue but quality. I had issues woth veg and ftuitfor about months now. Basically stopped shopping in supermarkets and shop in foreign shops for these.
That said, carrots last ages date or no date.
I think you might really look at your fridge ir the way you store things.
I had one in one remgal which curled milk in few days...

I've had rotting supermarket carrots as well. It's not my fridge, I've had bad carrots taken out the bag on day of purchase so I will only buy loose now.

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