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To think that the rules are RIDICULOUS and infantilising?

398 replies

OhBling · 09/07/2023 18:37

Was just in a Co Op buying a few bits. DS negotiated with me that I'd buy him a Monster, and he'd drink half (they are such huge tins it drives me mad)....

... the man in co op would not sell it to me because I was going to give it to a child.

FFS. I'm an adult. He is my child. I can decide what he can and can't have. And caffeine is NOT illegal for children.

I'm also fully aware that lots of people will say I AM BU because no child should ever drink anything except fresh water, preferably from your local stream.... But I'm extremely annoyed. These rules are ridiculous.

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Fran091321 · 12/07/2023 11:30

YABU, he would be risking his job to sell it to you, knowing you were going to give it to a child.

During my last pregnancy I went to Boots to buy some 75mg aspirin, I had been prescribed it by my obstetrician to try to prevent pre-eclampsia (which I have had in a previous pregnancy). I couldn't get to the hospital in time to get the prescription, so I thought I'd buy some over the counter so I didn't miss a dose. BUT they wouldn't sell it to me because I was visibly pregnant, even though i explained I had had it prescribed for the prevention of developing pre-eclampsia. I thought that was unreasonable as I could have bought alcohol or cigarettes as a pregnant person (obviously not from Boots).

Smallerthannormalpeople · 12/07/2023 11:51

This is either a troll or the OP is a rubbish parent. Caffeine in such HUGE quantities is dangerous, especially for children. Why would you even consider buying energy drinks for your child? It’s lucky there are other people with more brain cells who are prepared to stop you being so idiotic.

SimonsCow · 12/07/2023 12:54

This reminds me of the time I was shopping with my 12yo and the cashier asked us both for ID. Really if an adult is buying alcohol for a minor do they really bring them to the checkout?!

Im with everyone else about the monster though. Don’t let your child drink that shit.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 12/07/2023 13:22

BittenontheBum · 12/07/2023 07:56

Madness was being age checked at a self service till when buying a succulent! It was 3 inches tall and had no pricks....
Unlike the arsey worker who didn't/couldn't reasonably explain to me why I was being checked.
I only queried why, and was eventually told it could be used as a 'weapon ' 🤣
But I agree, these energy drinks are heart attacks/caffeine poisoning in a can. Parents buying them for children have no defence imo.

This seems a good moment to mention my YouTube self-defence class for women - which addresses how to handle a situation where someone comes at you with a very small cactus. You might also like to look at Taking Down A Man Brandishing a Bonsai Tree and Impale the Bastard on His Own Dwarf Conifer,

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/07/2023 13:42

Lavellan · 11/07/2023 21:59

Yeah I think supermarkets well overstep. If the person buying it is over 18, then that's where their jurisdiction stops. Even for alcohol. If you want to give your 16 year old a blue wicked or whatever, that's up to you. It's not illegal and it's none of their business.

@Lavellan - would you want a shop worker being disciplined, fined or even losing their job because they’d sold you an age restricted product you were buying for your child?

Mumto6ac · 12/07/2023 14:20

To be honest I don’t think this stuff should be sold at all. Young adult son drank 2 cans throughout the day & it sped his heart rate up so much he spent 4 days in hospital with a suspected heart attack!
Definitely wouldn’t be giving even half a can to a child - these rules are in place for a reason!

BittenontheBum · 12/07/2023 14:58

@WalkingOnTheCracks 🤣🤣 I have a very spikey cactus that could be put to excellent use 🌵 I'm in, point me in the right direction 👉

Motherbear07 · 12/07/2023 16:03

How old is your child? I’m sure they have to be 16 to have such a drink.
there is studies that shows what happens to a child’s heart while drinking these drinks. My friends son who was 12 at the time was consuming these drinks. He had a heart attack due to the caffeine in the drinks. It’s not for a child. Even I wouldn’t consume these drinks. They’re so bad for you. A shop could get fined for selling the drink to a minor. The health risks are not worth it.

Tigger72 · 12/07/2023 17:24

Ask a cardiologist what they think? My son’s very well respected cardiologist at John Radcliffe (in uk) said these drinks are dangerous to children & adults. I can’t remember why we were talking about it at his appointment. Sugar content is huge, even in no sugar one they have large glucose levels, it’s the mixture of all the ingredients that makes them so potent. It’s worrying how many parents aren’t aware, I wasn’t until a chance conversation few years back.

Newnamenewname109870 · 12/07/2023 17:27

Tigger72 · 12/07/2023 17:24

Ask a cardiologist what they think? My son’s very well respected cardiologist at John Radcliffe (in uk) said these drinks are dangerous to children & adults. I can’t remember why we were talking about it at his appointment. Sugar content is huge, even in no sugar one they have large glucose levels, it’s the mixture of all the ingredients that makes them so potent. It’s worrying how many parents aren’t aware, I wasn’t until a chance conversation few years back.

They’re truly horrendous

Smallerthannormalpeople · 12/07/2023 19:05

Gpnever · 09/07/2023 18:59

Even though I wouldn’t give it to my child, I can’t see what authority the cashier had here, as it’s not illegal.

tbh I would be annoyed, it’s none of their business to tell you what you can and can’t do outside of stuff they legally cannot sell you

What authority did the cashier have? Probably that it was Co-op policy and if he had gone against his employer’s policy he would have lost his job. What an idiotic comment 🙄

Againstmachine · 13/07/2023 07:17

Smallerthannormalpeople · 12/07/2023 19:05

What authority did the cashier have? Probably that it was Co-op policy and if he had gone against his employer’s policy he would have lost his job. What an idiotic comment 🙄

Absolutely, a shop can refuse to serve people anything they want and don't have to sell you anything even a apple.

PinkStarFish15 · 13/07/2023 10:01

I don’t understand why you haven’t given the age of your child as is it’s a huge difference between giving a 9 year old and 15 year old. The comment about water from a stream is a bit defensive too…

In terms of the cashier they could well be just doing their job and not actually interested in your parenting choices at all?

Im my area there has been a huge amount of mystery shoppers checking these things and the cashier probably thought she was being “tested”.

CantFindMyMarbles · 13/07/2023 18:50

YABU
the shop owner cares about your kid.
go somewhere else and buy it if you’re that desperate to feed your child such toxic BS

RightOnTheEdge · 13/07/2023 23:46

PinkStarFish15 · 13/07/2023 10:01

I don’t understand why you haven’t given the age of your child as is it’s a huge difference between giving a 9 year old and 15 year old. The comment about water from a stream is a bit defensive too…

In terms of the cashier they could well be just doing their job and not actually interested in your parenting choices at all?

Im my area there has been a huge amount of mystery shoppers checking these things and the cashier probably thought she was being “tested”.

She has given his age. She said he's 13!

Happyasapiginmuck1 · 14/07/2023 18:31

And will you be treated his racing heart at home or using the resources of the NHS? Did you get him a vape and some white lightening at the same time?

T1Dmama · 14/07/2023 18:42

OhBling · 09/07/2023 21:49

It's not, in fact, illegal, just like it's not actually illegal for a parent to allow a child to drink some alcohol. There are recommendations and guidelines, as with alcohol. All of which seem like a good idea to me.

My issue is that co-op decided to make it a rule. That was my irritation.

Clearly, lots of you agree with co-op. Fair enough. I still think it's ridiculous and a but pointless- all of the people who agree with the rule would never allow their children to have it. The rest of us will just buy it elsewhere. 🤷‍♀️

Even the prime website itself recommends against allowing children under 18 to drink it, pregnant or nursing mothers and people with health conditions…
There is twice as much caffeine in the cans if prime (energy ones) as there is in the monster drinks.

T1Dmama · 14/07/2023 18:47

Why do people ask questions on here and then moan when the majority say they’re being unreasonable?!
Then say ‘well I’m going to continue doing it anyway’ lol

Ukrainebaby23 · 14/07/2023 23:44

Fran091321 · 12/07/2023 11:30

YABU, he would be risking his job to sell it to you, knowing you were going to give it to a child.

During my last pregnancy I went to Boots to buy some 75mg aspirin, I had been prescribed it by my obstetrician to try to prevent pre-eclampsia (which I have had in a previous pregnancy). I couldn't get to the hospital in time to get the prescription, so I thought I'd buy some over the counter so I didn't miss a dose. BUT they wouldn't sell it to me because I was visibly pregnant, even though i explained I had had it prescribed for the prevention of developing pre-eclampsia. I thought that was unreasonable as I could have bought alcohol or cigarettes as a pregnant person (obviously not from Boots).

Haha, I was quite old for being pregnant and everyone thought I was just fat so they sold the 75mg aspirin to.me without question lol.

lieselotte · 17/07/2023 10:55

Happyasapiginmuck1 · 14/07/2023 18:31

And will you be treated his racing heart at home or using the resources of the NHS? Did you get him a vape and some white lightening at the same time?

The health issues are separate to the issues of the poorly implemented and understood laws and rules on age-restricted items.

Anyway I judge all of you who let your small kids sit in the front of cars. We can all be judgey about things. Nobody's "parenting" (ie what we used to call looking after their kids before people decided to turn being a parent into an activity) is perfect. No, not even yours!

DownNative · 17/07/2023 11:55

@OhBling It's not just Co-Op that refuses to sell energy drinks to under 18s and all proxy sales of it.

All major supermarkets have the same policy as its an industry wide thing.

Obviously, you still plan on giving it to your 13 year old kid which will be on you if anything happens.....even Prime advises against it, so you couldn't try to sue them for it.

To think that the rules are RIDICULOUS and infantilising?
PinkStarFish15 · 17/07/2023 15:56

RightOnTheEdge · 13/07/2023 23:46

She has given his age. She said he's 13!

That's still far to young surely?!

PinkStarFish15 · 17/07/2023 16:01

CrazyLadie · 11/07/2023 19:12

All major supermarkets enacted a ban on selling energy drinks to kids under 16, so no it's not against the law but its against their policy so no they would to sell to you to hand to a kid. This ban was put in place March 2018

I seem to remember this, was it Jamie Oliver? He couldn't get the law changed but he managed to get all the shops to agree not to sell to under 16's instead?

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