To be annoyed by the BBC referring to a female judge as "Mrs"?

[Midgewater]

I just read an article (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-66135038) and it stood out to me that the judge was first referred to as Judge Amanda Tipples and then as "Mrs Tipples" further down. I've perused a few more articles covering trials just to check, and only see male judges being referred to as "Judge X" or "Mr justice X".

It seems like no matter what a woman achieves in her professional life, her marital status is still the most important thing to know about her. For God's sake, the woman is a judge and deserves to be referred to by her title!

They didn't even call her "Mrs justice Tipples", just plain old "Mrs Tipples." She's also a Dame, so even that would have been more appropriate than "Mrs."

Along the same lines, it really grinds my gears when news articles refer to women as "(Town name) mum of two..." when it's not in the least bit relevant to the story.

Heaven forbid women exist without being defined by their relationship to someone else.

YANBU. I remember, I think a couple of years back, reading an article about how women presenting at conferences were generally introduced as first name second name, and men presenting were introduced as title surname.

amanda tipples is an incompetent idiot who was ONLY made a High Court judge because she is a woman. She is not intelligent enough to be a judge at all, never mind a senior judge. So she is a good example of the exact opposite of your point, people being employed into lucrative and senior positions JUST because they are female, and then others being harmed because a person who is not qualified for the role is in the role

Bless you.

The OP's point is that no-one needs to know her marital status...

I have no knowledge of this person but as someone who has been through the entire process for judicial selection I can tell you now that she most certainly won't be an incompetent idiot lacking in intelligence. It's an extremely challenging process and very competitive. Plenty of women to choose from too so the fact that you're implying she was only selected because she's female is frankly ridiculous.

It is of course possible that she isn't really right for the role but she will not have been selected purely on the basis of being female. It just doesn't work that way.

It believe it's s the traditional term for a female judge regardless of marital status. I couldn't get hung up about it.

Mrs. Justice is the correct term, as is Miss Justice…, Mr. Justice and in some cases Ms Justice… Nothing wrong or offensive about it whatsoever.

Maybe read the OP again. They did not call her “Mrs Justice Tipples” in the article, just “Mrs Tipples”.

Same comment applies to @BareGrylls

It’s always Mrs Justice for women, irrespective of marital status.

If they were calling her plain Mrs Tipples, that’s incorrect. Likewise Judge Amanda Tipples- Judge John Deed has a lot to answer for.

Which they were!

Oh I see. Journo doesn’t understand the correct terminology. I thought the OP was taking offence at the marital status being mentioned

Having read the piece, she is referred to as Mrs Justice Tipples and Justice Amanda Tipples, not Mrs Tippless.
Mrs Justice is completely standard for a HC judge and "Judge" is normal for a county court.

What part of

They didn't even call her "Mrs justice Tipples", just plain old "Mrs Tipples." She's also a Dame, so even that would have been more appropriate than "Mrs."

did you find difficult to understand?

Alison Russell is a Ms Justice. I thought there were Miss Justices too.

The part I read said Mrs justice Tipples.
Mrs Justice Tipples said: "It is only you who knows why you did this. The reasons are impossible to understand from your evidence."
and
However, Mrs Justice Tipples told him: "I do not accept you have shown any genuine remorse for what you have done. You have sought to minimise responsibility for what you have done."

I get called Mrs all the time.
Especially at the Doctors / hospital/ NHS letters.
My Internet provider.
My Council tax letters.
In fact everything.
I'm actually a Miss.
I just can't be arsed correcting them anymore.

Blimey. Calm down. I misread it. It’s not a hanging offence.

Had the article been edited then? It now says “Justice Amanda Tipples” (nearly right) and “Mrs Justice Tipples” (right).

I was going by what the OP said, which was

They didn't even call her "Mrs justice Tipples", just plain old "Mrs Tipples." She's also a Dame, so even that would have been more appropriate than "Mrs."

I did not read the article itself. If the offending wording is not there then either OP got it wrong or the mistake has been corrected by the BBC since the article was posted.

Having now read the article, the subject matter is so horrific that, frankly, the way the judge was referred to pales into absolute insignificance. When you see that level of violence against a woman, caring about your form of address seems like a huge privilege.

Mrs Justice Tipples is the correct way to refer to her!

I can't stop laughing at you telling everybody off on this thread, being wrong, admitting you hadn't actually read the article under discussion and then telling everyone off again. Top marks!

WTF are you talking about? I was not wrong. Multiple people completely missed or misread the very clear statement in the OP that

They didn't even call her "Mrs justice Tipples", just plain old "Mrs Tipples." She's also a Dame, so even that would have been more appropriate than "Mrs."

and jumped in immediately to say, patronisingly, that “Mrs Justice Tipples” is correct.

I had absolutely no need to read the article in order to make my point in defence of the OP.

I have no idea whether OP was incorrect in her reading of the article all along, or whether the BBC subsequently changed it. That’s immaterial though, when my point was about people not reading the OP carefully enough. That point still stands.

I suggest that you seek out some actual comedy if you are so desperate for a laugh.